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Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2021 à 14 h 4
Sujet:
God this would slap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Laf + Strome + Nils + 1st done in the summer</div></div>
no
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 févr. 2021 à 16 h 30
Sujet:
Kraken
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiantBoots</b></div><div>Will Duclair be available? Are you expecting one of the defencemen to go?</div></div>
you can protect 7 forwards. Verhaeghe is out of his mind rn and the team is rolling I can't see them not figuring out a way to extend and protect him. No way he's 8th best forward for them
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 févr. 2021 à 18 h 26
Sujet:
Kraken
Verhaeghe will be protected assuming FLA signs him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. 2021 à 12 h 17
Sujet:
projected cap space next year
I know this isn't really the point of your post but Seattle won't touch Tony D. If there's a team willing to deal with his off ice stuff, it isn't going to be them
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 févr. 2021 à 15 h 22
Sujet:
More likely Tony trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>So what is it about? As far as I'm concerned we already got rid of him and recouped cap space. It would appear your statement couldn't be more right, it isn't about getting rid of Tony since he is already gone. It's about you unloading a bad contract</div></div>
What? Im a Rangers fan. Tony needs to go because he's an a hole. People aren't going to want him so you need to take something pretty awful back in return if you want a chance to trade him, at least IMO. Nobody claimed him for free, so you're going to have to take a negative hit in some way asset-wise
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 févr. 2021 à 14 h 49
Sujet:
Head start on our rebuild
Chytil staying put
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 févr. 2021 à 14 h 47
Sujet:
More likely Tony trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Yup, this is an awful assessment. We don't need to get 3M off the books in 20' and 1M off the books next year that bad that we would take multiyear 6M healthy scratch type contracts back</div></div>
Well its not really about getting rid of Tony's salary
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 févr. 2021 à 18 h 55
Sujet:
Dreger says DeAngelo trade is in the works - how is this
The trade is one for one. Tony DeAngelo for Marc Staal
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 févr. 2021 à 18 h 53
Sujet:
Could Rangers trade for Bennett
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>Haha np. Yea yesterday when he was waived I posted something around a Bennett dlo swap</div></div>
I'd take it as a Ranger fan for sure. At this point I don't think Tony's going to get any kind of half decent return if we couldn't even get rid of him for free
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 févr. 2021 à 15 h 35
Sujet:
Could Rangers trade for Bennett
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tormundgiantsbane</b></div><div>I think Winnipeg takes him. They have no problem with a shaky locker room.</div></div>
Pionk and Tony on the right side what could go wrong
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 févr. 2021 à 15 h 34
Sujet:
Could Rangers trade for Bennett
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nikolay_Zherdev</b></div><div>Called this...</div></div>
Called it sarcastically and think it doesn't make sense? Or already posted this idea? ..Dont spend too much time on here anymore...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 janv. 2021 à 22 h 33
Sujet:
Undoing the Arizona trade
Life was good
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 janv. 2021 à 22 h 32
Sujet:
Dubois next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>Well, first off, i think we’re probably all overstating the situation regarding him wanting out. Has he openly come out to the media and said, “i want to play for a different team?”
Even if that’s the case, why should columbus care? They have nothing but time. Three years before they really have to moved him, regardless of what he wants.
Let’s say they’re listening to offers though. You don’t think there are at least a dozen teams that beat that offer? There’s nothing there that’s exciting. One team comes in with a very good prospect + first, and they beat that offer.
This looks like a trade that could work if PLD were 25, one year away from UFA, and he’s married to some rocket model who lives in New York (think fisher). Not a 22 year old with a two year contract, and four years of team control.</div></div>
Well...my take aged poorly! Lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 janv. 2021 à 10 h 33
Sujet:
I just want to see this for 5 minutes against buffalo please
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>LAFRENIERE IS A BUST!!!!
(Sarcasm)
But seriously-Why the heck didn't they let him go to the world juniors to get some actual games in before the season started? March to January is a long time between any sort of actual competitive action.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>KIRBY DACH is why.... Laf has already been the MVP of the junoirs, no need to send him there with the risk of injury and really nothing left to prove at that level</div></div>
I see both the points here...I know its frustrating, but we've been spoiled with great veteran teams in NY. This team is fun, Laf is going to be a star. He's shown flashes but hasn't been getting the points. This team will be juggernaut for a long time once the kids come along. Only a matter of time before Laf starts burying some
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 janv. 2021 à 15 h 2
Sujet:
minimal changes against devils
Brendan Smith in over JJ! Best game he's played for us since he player with Skjei when we first acquired him, by far! Looked great with K'Andre against the Isles last night
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 janv. 2021 à 16 h 55
Sujet:
I Hate This Team
Don't be too upset. When fans are back in the buildings you'll have Trevor Zegras in the lineup. Things could be worse!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 janv. 2021 à 12 h 54
Sujet:
Marner caps lol
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Hilarious</div></div>
hilarious contract
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 janv. 2021 à 15 h 17
Sujet:
Marner caps lol
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>No one who isn't just completely lost would want Wilson over Marner. Anyone who says otherwise, I question their ability to reason.</div></div>
Maybe starting a franchise from scratch. Any team that isn't in the basement of the league would rather have Wilson.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 janv. 2021 à 16 h 23
Sujet:
Marner caps lol
Everyone say it with me: 31! TEAMS! WOULD! RATHER! HAVE! WILSON! Wahoooooooo I feel freeeeeee
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 janv. 2021 à 16 h 21
Sujet:
Dubois next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>Okay, well i think there’s some disconnect here, and i guess it could be language based. The difference between this scenario and the others are pretty big. The biggest one is reason. The second is age.
The devils had a reason to trade Hall. They were bad, his deal was expiring, and he was unlikely to re-sign. Tampa had a reason to trade miller. They had a lot of forward depth, and a desperate need for cap space. He was a player they could get an asset for, while shedding cap. Stone was leaving after a few more meaningless games in UFA. All these teams had legitimate reasons to be willing to move the player. Also the players were all either on the verge of going UFA, or on the verge of being UFA age.
What possible reason could columbus have to move PLD? The rumors that he wants out? So what? Shea Weber wanted out of Nashville forever, he still played great. Let’s say he does want out. Cool, that’s a reason to move him two years from now where he’s an arb eligible RFA. Until then, they’re a competitive team, and he’s a number one center on a good contract. The standard, “well, here’s a bunch of futures,” won’t work like with the trades you mentioned, because all of those teams had a reason to trade that player, and specific need for futures.
Think of it this way. Let’s pretend the US and Canadian dollars were worth the exact same. They’re not, but let’s pretend. You’re in the states, with no plans to go to canada, and i offer you a canadian dollar for a US dollar. You say no obviously. I offer $1.25. You still probably say no. What are you going to do with that? It’s more of a bother than it’s worth. But then your boss says, “hey Jambo, you’re going on a trip to canada for a month.” Now all of a sudden you need CAD. That dollar for dollar trade is looking great. Hell, if you had to you would probably take 80 cents. You have a reason to want that CAD.
Columbus ain’t going to canada.</div></div>
I do understand your point and what you're saying. I think we also both agree that it would be supremely hard for them to win a trade if they are sending away PLD. He's kind of exactly what they need, and they're damn near toast without him.
My line of thought is under the assumption that they would be looking to move him if he wants out, next season perhaps. This is just an idea for one way a trade for him might look. We clearly disagree on DeAngelo's value, he is a polarizing player because he has questions around his play, but also clear offensive upside. Improving defensively is a must. Typically guys who want out, eventually get out.
Say Columbus experiences a dip in the standings, I think they make the top 4 in their division this year, but lets say for whatever reason they feel more inclined to get some futures out of a deal, this would be a pretty good deal. I think the Rangers could add pieces too.
I guess my point is that a player vocally wanting out, is a reason for a trade, considering players who request one typically get moved at some point in the following years. You can only roll with a guy who wants out for so long, even if they are extremely competitive like Dubois. Columbus has the right to wait on a return they like, but it will be hard to find one that makes them better. The Rangers will be in on at, and maybe its hard to see now, but I would like to revisit this when Dubois does get moved, whenever that is. I think the return may very well end up being slightly overwhelming. At least the deal I suggested offers help now and lots of help in the future
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 janv. 2021 à 17 h 18
Sujet:
Dubas 123
Who gave you a computer
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 janv. 2021 à 17 h 18
Sujet:
every line is good or eh none are great
God San Jose is bound to be a wreck at some point, they already might be. Paying way too much on an overrated blue line, leaving the forward group as probably one of the weakest and thinnest in the whole league. Good grief, and shaky goaltending at the center of it all.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 janv. 2021 à 17 h 14
Sujet:
Manson
I can't decide who says no here. But I think if TOR is really going to send it for a Cup, both teams would/should do this.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 janv. 2021 à 16 h 47
Sujet:
Dubois next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>If JT Miller is your comparable, you’re just going about this the wrong way. You’re also not looking at what columbus needs. You’re also not taking into account that the lightning really needed to shed salary. They had a desire to trade miller. Columbus doesn’t want to trade PLD. Blow them out of the water or they aren’t going to have any interest.
Then theres the last bit. Strome and Deangelo. Theres a reason they’re in here. There’s a reason why they’re in all the New York trades. They aren’t that good. No one really wants them, although Deangelo is probably a pretty good pick for daily fantasy.</div></div>
Few things here:
-Columbus wants to trade PLD the same amount Tampa probably "wanted" to traded JT. Nobody wants to trade a young, dynamic 2 way 50 point forward making 5 mill per year for a few years to go. Nor does a team want to trade a young, number 1 center. It was solely cap. Needing to shed cap is the same amount of reason to move someone as a player requesting a trade.
-I admit JT isn't the best comparable player wise, but I mean in terms of return value ratio in a recent trade. Mark Stone (contingent on extension)? Elite prospect and a 2nd. The Hall trade was for less than what NYR would be giving here. If Columbus wants Kravtsov and a second instead of this offer, be my guest. Im sure you'd scoff at that too, but these are just the way these deals usually unfold. The armchair GM's typically expect a lot more than what actually happens. If PLD really wants out, these are things to consider.
- Aren't a lot of players getting traded by fans on this website recurring? Is your logic that good players don't get traded? I admitted Strome isn't half of what PLD is, but Tony brings offense and CBJ needs that, especially if PLD is leaving. 4th in points by d-Men is bad now I guess? Come on man, they get traded because they aren't essential to our core and still carry value across the league. Thats how damn near every NHL trade happens: non-core players with value get moved in an attempt for both teams to improve roster strength and depth. I know you know that. Are you being ignorant or just trying to get under a Rags fan's skin?
-Is the only way CBJ can win a Dubois trade if they get Laine for him, one for one? Helps both teams' needs if they both play to their maximum potential (and if WPG is big enough a stage for PLD)
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Armchair-GM
5 janv. 2021 à 14 h 0
Sujet:
Dubois next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>Alright few things here. The whole point of this is that no, it won’t take the whole farm system. Quality over quantity bud.
Who cares if he wants out? That doesn’t effect columbus at all. Not for a few years anyway.
Players of that status who have been traded? There aren’t going to be many. Seguin? The centerpiece of that trade was a 30 goal, 70 point winger who was elite defensively on an awesome contract. Columbus isn’t going to care about strome or tony D at all.</div></div>
Perhaps you don't know enough about the prospects involved? Gauthier projects to be a strong middle 6 winger and Robertson a top 4 D. Plus a first rounder likely in the 10-20 range and a second. Then you add in one of the best offensive Dmen in the league and a second line center who can play behind Domi for the year. Strome obviously is not close to Dubois but at least a decent replacement for 1 year until a better situation can be figured out.
I look at JT miller. Similar point totals, although JT never hit 61. First rounder, a 7th, and a minor league goalie for a great two way winger on a good contract (who went on to put up 72 points). Obviously different players, and Tampa had their reasons for that trade, but my point is the deal Im suggesting is not as insulting as you seem to think it is. You think it is insulting, but in real life NHL, this is a deal they'd have to consider with PLD wanting a move to a bigger stage.
Additionally, in the NHL prospect world, when the quantity IS quality, Quantity is important. More prospects you have likely to turn NHL, the better.
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