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Forum: NHL Signings3 nov. 2019 à 21 h 45
Sujet: Nashville Predators signed Roman Josi (8 Years / $9,059,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>1) Bull****. It is just a philosophy change. Some teams are certainly in a better position but all teams can switch on a dime if they wanted to.
2) Nashville's GM has been gm for decades. That is PLURAL! The team being this way is entirely his own fault.
3) Who said punt and be mediocre? They have the rest of their team, and they could have traded guys who weren't interested in signing shorter deals into their twilight (imagine the return Josi would have gotten a year ago, or even at the draft). Teams aren't just screwed if they don't want to sign contracts with guys that they think will be too much for too long.
4) Columbus' hail marry was very different from this one as it didn't hinder their ability to ice a competitive roster in 5 years time. While I think they overpaid for Duchene and did spend slightly frivolously (picks for McQuaid?!?!?) They still have their young core and good prospects coming so that they will be back in it soon enough. Nashville on the other hand has guaranteed a 5 year period where they are basically Detroit. Don't be Detroit.

Just as a note:
Here is a potential team made up entirely of picks a contending team might have (no first rounders and limited to the last 10 years to keep relevant) or free agents from college.
Aho-ROR-Stone
Kerfoot-Point-Debrincat
Gourde-Hintz-Lebanc
Moore-Blueger-Malign

Slavin-Paryko
Edmundson-Barrie
Nutivaara-Holl

Gibson
Jarry

Is this exhaustive? Not even close. Are there better options? Maybe. I did this quickly.
Point is there is tons of talent available and smart GM's get them and a team can easily be made that works cap wise and respects age curves and doesn't hamper your ability to compete going forwards.</div></div>

1. There has only ever been a handful of teams that were able to remain at the top of their division for more than a decade, acting like any team can just do it is ignorant. Everyone would love to be the Red Wings dynasty but that good of drafting is something that nobody else has had until maybe Tampa bay recently.

2. Nashville came in at a bad time, had to draft for years to become close to competitive, and have finally found consistent success. They worked with what they had, did they do a good job? I don't know, with hindsight it could have been better, but the past is the past, who cares.

3. If they trade Josi, they wont get a player that is equal value, why would a team trade a younger cheaper comparable for an older Josi. If they shop Josi in the middle of a cup run what does that say about their faith in their core that they have built. If they trade Josi, they will be getting worse as a team in the right now in an attempt to be even better in the future, AKA punting seasons. Likely you get high picks and a bluechip prospect, and the team you have right now is not going to be as good in 2 years. Unless you plan on trading every aging player on the roster for more inexpensive younger options and draft picks then you have to push now, everything about how this core is built says push now. The west is weaker than i have ever seen, (I was born in 2000) and you just won your division and get to come back with a similar core, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO TRADE YOUR BEST DEFENSEMAN.

4. Our opinions on Columbus are very similar, I just think they are a bit worse off than you think they are, they need a lot of TLC to be a contender in 5 years.

And Lastly that note is such a lie, every single one of those players are outliers in their own rights, getting elite talent in the later rounds is so goddamn rare you could never hope to build a team around assuming your just better at scouting than everyone else in the league. Any team without a gm named Yzerman is lucky to get ONE let alone TWO like Carolina has been blessed with. (Praise be Carolina luck gods). Your perfect world hindsight of what teams should have done is ignorant to the reality of the odds of getting great players in the draft.

SURE, if you could draft better than anyone else, take advantage of other GM's and get steals of deals through trades, and get inexpensive valuable players in free agency OF COURSE YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF. That is not reality, reality is, you take chances that might bite you later on. Im not saying GM's are all good at their jobs, quite the opposite. I'm not saying this Josi contract is necessarily good, Josi might fall off a cliff in 2 years who the hell knows. What I am saying is you don't trade away the best player on your team while you have a serious chance for a deep playoff run for the chance at another superstar in 2/3 years that you will run into the same problem with.