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Forum: Armchair-GM1 juill. 2023 à 10 h 37
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Forum: Armchair-GM18 juin 2023 à 20 h 50
Sujet: Big EK trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>It's a lot of money, for sure. SJS screwed themselves by signing him for that much money for that long. $23M &lt;&lt; $46M. We can understand that right? Spending $46mm for a player that doesn't help them get to the playoffs (no player will, the roster is old and overpaid) doesn't make much sense. SJS will need to retain at least a good portion of the contract in order to move him.

The Burns trade is a good reference point.

Burns (34% retained) + Pederson &lt;&gt; Lorentz + Makiniemi + 3rd

SJS got hosed. Karlsson may fetch a bit more, but most teams just cannot fit his contract at almost any dollar amount. He's just not worth that much despite winning another Norris.</div></div>

Burns has $2.7M cap retention on a front loaded $8M deal. He was the cheapest of the 3 highly paid Dmen in SJ that they had to move, hence Burns being moved 1st.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 juin 2023 à 20 h 7
Sujet: Big EK trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharcuda22</b></div><div>Karlsson controlling where he goes limits his value, as does the length of his contract, as does his injury record. The comment to which I first replied to you in said this was a good proposal but sharks would probably prefer to take Savoie if they could because I know they were high on him at the 2022 draft. Also because you could not grasp the sarcasm in the last reply I was not actually talking about a 1st overall pick. This offer is both in line with what the sharks asked for before in the meier deal, and just about the best return the sharks could hope to get in the circumstances.</div></div>

You can't seem to grasp what the ask for is to retain $23M... They don't pay that in Monopoly money!
Forum: Armchair-GM18 juin 2023 à 18 h 28
Sujet: Big EK trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sharcuda22</b></div><div>sharks could get number 1 overall and he would be like why would they want that its only potential bedard hasn't proven anything</div></div>

Savoie isn't even in the trade proposal LOL. Tell me 1 person in this trade proposal that comes anywhere close to a #1 draft pick? You're completely speculating on all players but the 1 player who is actually considered an NHLer. The 13th overall pick has value. Ostlund still has value but no NA pro experience. Luukkonen isn't turning any heads, he's struggling(SJS would be asking for Levi). Jokiharju is a depth Dman forced to play top mins who's had a lot of injury history for a 24 year old who's underperformed. The 2024 2nd rd pick wouldn't get you 1 year of $5.75M retained let alone 4 years equaling $23M!

The Meier trade isn't comparable at all! He had 1 year remaining before a qualifying offer of $10M which was the reason he was traded. Karlsson is very likely winning the Norris, has 4 years remaining and wants to go to a CONTENDER! He has control of where he goes!
Forum: Armchair-GM18 juin 2023 à 2 h 33
Sujet: Big EK trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>what do you suggest San Jose do then?

I am not a San Jose or Buffalo fan - I am trying to be as impartial as possible.

San Jose is AT LEAST 5 years away from competing. Prospects and picks should be what they go for. They get a lot of quality picks and prospects and some decent young players here.</div></div>

What you're not understanding is that all those players and picks wouldn't be enough to just retain the 23 Million let alone get EK too... it's 23 Million and you're acting like it's no big deal LOL.
The list is pretty short for teams that can even afford to take on a player like EK, let alone be a team he'd be willing to waive to go to.
SJS will inevitably need to eat cap but what you've suggested is the kind of deal that gets ppl fired instantly!
Forum: Armchair-GM18 juin 2023 à 2 h 22
Sujet: Big EK trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>I think people are going to be surprised how little San Jose will get back for Karlsson. At 11.5m a year I think ZERO teams would take him for free. That's my hot take.

Only 3-4 teams would take him at 9m a year. So even then his value wont be crazy.

At 7.5m he starts becoming very desirable and that's where I see his value really starting to take off.

Now if San Jose decides to do a full 50% retention, that's where they will get a serious haul for him. This right here is a very solid haul. Prospects are always questions marks. San Jose should be accumulating as many question marks as possible.</div></div>

Eating 23 Million &amp; giving up a Norris winner for a bunch of unproven players????... Get real!