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Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2023 à 14 h 38

Sujet: A couple Hawks thoughts

I would send the Rangers 2nd to make it happen

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2023 à 14 h 6

Sujet: A couple Hawks thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PaulKorea</b></div><div>Bruins aren't dumping Hall on Chicago without paying for it. Same with Edmonton and Yamamoto.</div></div>

Thinking of the Fleury deal in the Yamamoto deal.

I would usually ask for a 2nd, but the Bruins are strapped for picks. This deal is like getting him for free, but agree that there should be a sweetener

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2023 à 14 h 3

Sujet: A couple Hawks thoughts

I know the Compher deal is an overpay, but thinking of it like AA. Helps get a short deal with higher money when Compher is in the age range to get paid in a weak market

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2023 à 13 h 14

Sujet: try it out

I think you already explained why Chicago declines:

"with the options to acquire Brett Pesce or Travis Konecny the Oilers need to clear space"

This means assets go with the cap dump, not a young cost controlled bottom 6 player and a 4th for said cap dump.

Hawks pass

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2023 à 12 h 39

Sujet: Compher and Hall

Bruins are in cap hades. No team will trade a 2nd to help them out.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2023 à 12 h 38

Sujet: Throwing feces against the proverbial wall

Appropriately named. Feces

Haha, Hawks pass on giving an asset to improve another team's cap

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juin 2023 à 11 h 50

Sujet: Out of Left Field

Rebuilding teams don't trade a chance at a generational, cost controlled talent for 2 players making over $20M on their next contracts.

Hawks pass

Forum: Armchair-GM25 juin 2023 à 21 h 9

Sujet: Lemonade

Ceci costs to dump

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2023 à 10 h 9

Sujet: Hawks Thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>2 fourth liners for a top center prospect and a top 6 winger? Yeah Caps won't do that. They'll probably give Mantha another chance with a good coach.</div></div>

I did preface at the beginning that these were cap dump thoughts, which often aren't viewed as a fair conventional trade.

I will break out the magic 8 ball and see what it says, haha

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2023 à 10 h 8

Sujet: Hawks Thoughts

Most stories show the Caps looking to move on from Mantha as a cap dump. Proposals I have seen here usually show a 2nd going with him for future considerations. I wanted to try to change it up. Mantha has been less than stellar in Washington, and figured that Lapierre might be an option. Just a guess that allows the Caps to hold onto draft capital and gain a potential flip player in Blackwell (maybe for a pick), and a bottom 6 winger in Entwistle.

I respect that you aren't a fan of the deal. I crafted it from the fact that cap space is at a premium, so I see a few deals that leave us scratching our heads as to the return for an established player. I appreciate your feedback

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2023 à 9 h 15

Sujet: Hawks Thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>Easily and quickly, with prejudice.</div></div>

With prejudice? Really? Good luck to the Caps. I am interested to see what they do.

Have a good day

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2023 à 8 h 38

Sujet: Hawks Thoughts

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Not sure we are there yet. Everyone is in a holding pattern. No one wants to set the cap dump market, but everyone needs the space. They don't want to admit what it is gonna cost to move contracts out. With how thin the UFA market is, there aren't any no brainer replacements for a lot of teams. I think we will get there though. Once the first few domino's fall, the mad scramble will begin. That, or everyone will just run it back and wait for the cap to start going up next summer.</div></div>

I agree. I see dominoes falling leading up to the draft. I think there will be a couple of surprises for some fan bases. I am excited to see what the rest of the month brings.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2023 à 6 h 8

Sujet: Filhawk

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kalopsia</b></div><div>I don't get why it's specifically Hawks fans keep proposing that the Caps will pay a 2nd rounder to dump Mantha. Caps fans always say it's not happening, and no other fanbase is so consistently out of touch on Mantha's value, but I swear 9/10 times when I see a Hawks ACGM with a Caps trade it's Mantha + 2nd for nothing. There's some weird hive mind thing going on.</div></div>

Seems to be the going rate for cap Dumps.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2023 à 6 h 5

Sujet: retool rebuild re-something

As they say in America's Got Talent, "Thanks for coming"

No way rebuilding teams give up assets for what is being offered here.

Appreciate your suggestions though

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2023 à 6 h 3

Sujet: Hawks

To repeat what has been said before.

Kane is not coming back

Additionally, I think there is no way Chicago gives up a 2nd rounder for one of the Albatross bad contracts in the NHL

Forum: Armchair-GM22 juin 2023 à 9 h 11

Sujet: Oilers 2023-24 V8

I am not a mathematician bit I cannot see how Yamamoto is worth a 7th, and Warren Foegle is worth a 2nd.

Cap Dump 101. Your team needs to clear cap space, you have 4 choices.

1) This time of year, buy them out. See OER in Vancouver
2) trade them for an inferior return. See the Mrazek trade from the last draft. Trading Mrazek and a 1st for a 2nd
3) trade them for future considerations. I think of Fleury to Chicago a couple years ago
4) Add a sweetener. See Marleau and a 1st for future considerations

We know the value of a player to us as fans, but sadly, in a cap world sometimes we get peanuts for popular players.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin 2023 à 10 h 44

Sujet: Davidson goes beserk next week

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojohawk</b></div><div>First 2 seem fair. I want more to take Mantha. as the net of those picks is not nearly enough. Mantha should cost a pick similar to what Zaitsev cost to dump...#44 (when you subtract out the future 4th and the extra 1/4er of a year after the TDL that was included there). Mantha needs to be a 2nd (this years I would offset with the Dallas 3rd as it is #40OA, otherwise a future 2nd), otherwise Caps can figure out that problem.</div></div>

Agree 100%

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin 2023 à 10 h 29

Sujet: Cup24

I don't see the Hawks spending a 4th for a cap dump

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juin 2023 à 10 h 19

Sujet: Mix it Up

I would think a 4th and a 5th would get the 3rd by themselves. Cap dumps are typically lopsided towards the team taking the salary on, i.e. Zaitsev and a 2nd and 4th for future considerations.

Hawks pass on this

Forum: Armchair-GM19 juin 2023 à 16 h 4

Sujet: Trades cap space picks Cray time of year Teams up against the cap Lot

I will try to make my response short. No.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 juin 2023 à 10 h 8

Sujet: Oil king

The Hawks took Zaitsev. I don't see them taking Ceci too

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin 2023 à 12 h 2

Sujet: Bedard Michkov and Hughes

Unsure how you trade a July 1, 2023 signing (that is too low imo) for a June 28, 2023 1st overall pick.

Huey Lewis and the News song "back in time" is playing somewhere

Forum: Armchair-GM13 juin 2023 à 8 h 2

Sujet: Trying something

A lot for Chicago to give up for a cap dump. I think it may be close, but still think they would pass

Forum: Armchair-GM11 juin 2023 à 6 h 27

Sujet: Rebuild

Kane is not going back to Chicago.

Forum: Armchair-GM7 juin 2023 à 14 h 19

Sujet: Fixed it

Hawks pass

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