I think the value is good for the Pittsburgh deal but Sutter's salary is still about $500,000 more than the Pen's could fit under the cap

Awful offer for Colorado. Doesn't come close to what the Avs want or need. A 31 yr old D, nope. A 3rd round LD prospect, nope. An under achieving first round pick forward who may be a bust, nope. A 3rd round pick, nope.

Drafted in the third round, cant possibly be good. You love to put your last place team and it's over rated players on a pedestal

And you like to post stupid trade ideas so it's no surprise you'd agree with one is it?

TJTwolf from a guy with some real knowledge this trade is way too much for Colorado. So I will retract the trade for Shibbal. Should basically be edler plus 2nd for Duchene max. I would never trade Virtanen and never Brisebois especially for a guy who put up the same numbers as Baertschi :laug and Baertschi only cost a 2nd rounder.

Ah yes I seem to remember you were another who posted half-assed ideas and looked at one season windows as well. Someone with some real knowledge? Get outta here! In fact, better still.....go get a room, with your pal Shibbal!