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Bolts - get Guentzel and keep Stamkos - bye capfriendly

Créé par: stammerman
Équipe: 2024-25 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 30 juin 2024
Publié: 30 juin 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
- Buyout Sheary
- Going to take more than 8M to get Guentzel so with tax and lifestyle advantage they can get him for 8.75x7
- Stamkos will have to re-sign for 3.75mx8. He wants to play 4 more years so that is equivalent to 7.5mx4.
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You mean Bye Stamkos? He's not signing for that
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You mean Bye Stamkos? He's not signing for that


I don't see him getting less than $5.5m
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I don't see him getting less than $5.5m


I could see him take less to stay in Tampa but not less than $4M as listed here He's worth a minimum of $6M x 3 and could get more on the open market

Utah needs a superstar with a name they can sell.
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I could see him take less to stay in Tampa but not less than $4M as listed here He's worth a minimum of $6M x 3 and could get more on the open market

Utah needs a superstar with a name they can sell.


This roster as a whole as he presents it just doesn't make much logical sense... There is no way that they don't sign a legit top pairing RHD and Stamkos doesn't sign for that
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Quoting: JarvisforSelke
This roster as a whole as he presents it just doesn't make much logical sense... There is no way that they don't sign a legit top pairing RHD and Stamkos doesn't sign for that


They have not had a top pairing RHD in ages. Moser was playing top 4 for Arizona well over 20 minutes a night so he should be a reasonable partner to Hedman.
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I could see him take less to stay in Tampa but not less than $4M as listed here He's worth a minimum of $6M x 3 and could get more on the open market

Utah needs a superstar with a name they can sell.


Stamkos has said he wants to play 4 more years. 3.75m x 8 is equal to 7.5m x 4 for him to finish his career in Tampa. His money is just spread out.
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I don't see him getting less than $5.5m


Stamkos has said he wants to play 4 more years so 3.75m x 8 is equal to 7.5m x 4. Just spreads out his money and finish his career in Tampa. If he doesn't want that and someone over pays that is great for Stamkos. Stamkos is my favorite but most fans of opposing teams don't seem to understand his 5 on 5 is atrocious, he doesn't drive play anymore and he is mostly a power play specialist.

But again if he is over paid by another team that is great for him.
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Quoting: kous
You mean Bye Stamkos? He's not signing for that


What do you think his market value is? He has said he wants to play 4 more years to media in Tampa. 3.75x8 = 30M, 7.5x4 = 30M. If a team wants to pay him more great for Stamkos but as I said in prior reply I don't think a lot of fans understand he no longer drives play and is a detriment at 5 on 5 a good amount of time.

Will be interesting to see what the Lightning look like and what Stamkos gets on open market if he doesn't re-sign.
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What do you think his market value is? He has said he wants to play 4 more years to media in Tampa. 3.75x8 = 30M, 7.5x4 = 30M. If a team wants to pay him more great for Stamkos but as I said in prior reply I don't think a lot of fans understand he no longer drives play and is a detriment at 5 on 5 a good amount of time.

Will be interesting to see what the Lightning look like and what Stamkos gets on open market if he doesn't re-sign.


What happens when the new CBA kicks in 2026. And the NHL decides to kill this loop hole like they did with the backloaded contracts and Tampa is stuck with the cap hit for 8 years?

and making $30M over 4 years vs 8 years is not the same as with inflation and lost investment capital the money is worth less

He's worth a minimum of $6M x 3 and could get more on the open market
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What happens when the new CBA kicks in 2026. And the NHL decides to kill this loop hole like they did with the backloaded contracts and Tampa is stuck with the cap hit for 8 years?

and making $30M over 4 years vs 8 years is not the same as with inflation and lost investment capital the money is worth less

He's worth a minimum of $6M x 3 and could get more on the open market



That is the choice he has to make. I am not saying he will sign it. I am saying if he wants to play for Tampa that looks to be the only option for him. Stamkos is already rich, I am sure he has diverse portfolio so stretching out the money will be minimal to him so I don't think that is a determining factor.

Maybe the way Yzerman and now JBB have treated his negotiations he has had enough. I just know that what ever team signs him don't expect a 1 or 2 C that he was 7 years ago because they will be highly disappointed. Again, he is my favorite player but watching him since he came into the league he is no longer what a lot of opposing fans of the Lightning think he is.
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That is the choice he has to make. I am not saying he will sign it. I am saying if he wants to play for Tampa that looks to be the only option for him. Stamkos is already rich, I am sure he has diverse portfolio so stretching out the money will be minimal to him so I don't think that is a determining factor.

Maybe the way Yzerman and now JBB have treated his negotiations he has had enough. I just know that what ever team signs him don't expect a 1 or 2 C that he was 7 years ago because they will be highly disappointed. Again, he is my favorite player but watching him since he came into the league he is no longer what a lot of opposing fans of the Lightning think he is.


At 34 I don't think anyone expects him to be the player he used to be but over the next 3 years its safe to expect him to bolster the PP and score 30 goals a year
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