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Sheahan, others added to the lineup.

Créé par: DontToewsMe19
Équipe: 2017-18 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 21 juill. 2017
Publié: 21 juill. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
43 800 000 $
54 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
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PIT
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (SJS)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (SJS)
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PIT
  1. Sheahan, Riley (500 000 $ retained)
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (PIT)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $71 494 892 $50 000 $182 500 $3 505 108 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 8
734 167 $734 167 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
640 000 $640 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
625 000 $625 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
612 500 $612 500 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
625 000 $625 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
1 575 000 $1 575 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
3 333 225 $3 333 225 $
DG
UFA - 5
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 3
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
700 000 $700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
650 000 $650 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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21 juill. 2017 à 14 h 41
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Sheahan is a good option I hadn't considered but those trade values are really out of wack

Going to cost the Pens significantly more for Sheahan AND to basically dump Hagelin
21 juill. 2017 à 14 h 54
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Sheahan is slow and had an ENTIRE season off, while playing in 80 games. DET would have to retain a $1m for me to consider him. I would not give Pouliot and a 3rd for him, DET should say yes before you offer the second piece. I'd offer a 5th rounder and ask for $1m in retention ... then offer an AHL depth player with the 5th at most.

Hagelin, I think he's has more value at trade deadline, but he's also Crosby's BFF on the team, so moving him at the dead line might be bad. I think the package is about right, but I'd rather get a second pick as I think it will have more value to trade for other parts. Even a 5th or moving our 5th for their 3rd or 4th.
21 juill. 2017 à 15 h 4
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Thanks for ge feed back, I'll go in and edit the trades.
21 juill. 2017 à 15 h 22
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Quoting: Adamitis
Sheahan is a good option I hadn't considered but those trade values are really out of wack

Going to cost the Pens significantly more for Sheahan AND to basically dump Hagelin


Now that I look and analyze everything, Pittsburgh wouldn't have to pay anymore to get Sheahan, he has some good upside, but he is coming off of a season where he had 2 goals in 80 games and both came in the last game. Paying Pouliot for him was actually too much, so I replaced him with a third. The Hagelin wasn't just a salary dump, San Jose is weak on LW and they could use some more speed even after they have Boedker. Hagelin is no Marleau, but he'll help.

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Sheahan is slow and had an ENTIRE season off, while playing in 80 games. DET would have to retain a $1m for me to consider him. I would not give Pouliot and a 3rd for him, DET should say yes before you offer the second piece. I'd offer a 5th rounder and ask for $1m in retention ... then offer an AHL depth player with the 5th at most.

Hagelin, I think he's has more value at trade deadline, but he's also Crosby's BFF on the team, so moving him at the dead line might be bad. I think the package is about right, but I'd rather get a second pick as I think it will have more value to trade for other parts. Even a 5th or moving our 5th for their 3rd or 4th.


As I do agree that I overpaid for Sheahan, I think you are undervalueing him. He has had good years, just had an awful season. Pouliot is a very expensive piece, so I replaced him with a third. I hope that's good enough. I did take 2 4th's instead of Carpenter though.
21 juill. 2017 à 16 h 43
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Nice trade!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
22 juill. 2017 à 2 h 59
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Quoting: Adamitis
Sheahan is a good option I hadn't considered but those trade values are really out of wack

Going to cost the Pens significantly more for Sheahan AND to basically dump Hagelin


Now that I look and analyze everything, Pittsburgh wouldn't have to pay anymore to get Sheahan, he has some good upside, but he is coming off of a season where he had 2 goals in 80 games and both came in the last game. Paying Pouliot for him was actually too much, so I replaced him with a third. The Hagelin wasn't just a salary dump, San Jose is weak on LW and they could use some more speed even after they have Boedker. Hagelin is no Marleau, but he'll help.

Quoting: Ess
Sheahan is slow and had an ENTIRE season off, while playing in 80 games. DET would have to retain a $1m for me to consider him. I would not give Pouliot and a 3rd for him, DET should say yes before you offer the second piece. I'd offer a 5th rounder and ask for $1m in retention ... then offer an AHL depth player with the 5th at most.

Hagelin, I think he's has more value at trade deadline, but he's also Crosby's BFF on the team, so moving him at the dead line might be bad. I think the package is about right, but I'd rather get a second pick as I think it will have more value to trade for other parts. Even a 5th or moving our 5th for their 3rd or 4th.


As I do agree that I overpaid for Sheahan, I think you are undervalueing him. He has had good years, just had an awful season. Pouliot is a very expensive piece, so I replaced him with a third. I hope that's good enough. I did take 2 4th's instead of Carpenter though.


Did his wife/daughter have cancer? He played 80 games last season, 80 before he scored a single goal. I get bad nights or a rough season where your production is down, but he didn't produce enough to earn him his entry level salary, let alone his $2m. Screw seasons past. What has he done lately? Vegas traded Kruger for a 5th and he had a better year then Sheahan.

I don't doubt he's better then last season showed, I just wouldn't be willing to found out for 2 picks and $2m cap hit. If he doesn't work were do you get the cap space to get another 3C? ... Eric Fehr, a 4th, and Oleksy for a Corrado (who is just crushing it in the ... AHL? ECHL? Where ever he is I'm sure he was worth it) ... I wouldn't want to have to give up third 3rd rd pick and more to clear cap space to then be able to over pay to fix the problem IF there are viable options still available.

To much of question mark for a team that need 1 or 2 pieces to run at a 3rd cup in 3 yrs.
 
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