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Trying to actually be a playoff team

Créé par: MoForNorris
Équipe: 2023-24 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 8 nov. 2023
Publié: 8 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Honestly idek, just shooting out ideas here, more consistency in goal and on defense would be nice to have.

None of these will happen but it's nice to dream a little.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
DET
  1. Pesce, Brett
Détails additionnels:
Expiring UFA moved out, someone they've been looking to trade
CAR
  1. Chiarot, Ben (2 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Hanas, Cross
  3. Husso, Ville
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (DET)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Get a goalie which they need, plus only 2.75 of Chiarot, draft picks, and prospect
2.
DET
  1. Saros, Juuse (1 250 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Have Askarov who looks possibly NHL ready, could be a move later in season if Nashville continues to struggle, retaining salary as well to help for short term
NSH
  1. Hirose, Taro
  2. Viro, Eemil
  3. Wallinder, William
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
  5. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (STL)
  6. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (DET)
Détails additionnels:
Bunch of futures, building for the future, genuinely don't know what Nashville wants to be right now
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
Logo de BOS
Logo de DAL
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
2025
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Logo de DET
Logo de BOS
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
2026
Logo de DET
Logo de DET
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $82 080 973 $0 $3 350 000 $1 419 027 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 8
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
AD, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 460 000 $1 460 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
825 000 $825 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Predators de Nashville
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
775 000 $775 000 $
AD
UFA - 1

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8 nov. 2023 à 13 h 9
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Not the winning package for either, nor do either player fit the direction the team is going (not saying it wouldn’t be awesome to have one or both).
8 nov. 2023 à 13 h 15
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Ouch. Very bad moves for Detroit.
8 nov. 2023 à 13 h 38
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Switch Hanas with Edvinsson or Kasper, drop the retention of chariot and you have yourself a deal
8 nov. 2023 à 14 h 1
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Quoting: CoachCoach
Not the winning package for either, nor do either player fit the direction the team is going (not saying it wouldn’t be awesome to have one or both).


I mean I understand, to a degree. Saros would be perfect to kind of help introduce Cossa into the NHL in 2025/26 plus will provide more consistency in goal. Pesce doesn't need to be the guy they get, they just need to get rid of Chiarot and get themselves a RHD that isn't terrible, probably Christopher Tanev would work better tbh for just price.
8 nov. 2023 à 14 h 3
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Ouch. Very bad moves for Detroit.


Saros would be the move I'd love, but probably for cheaper + an extension. Need a consistent guy that can post over a .900% and Husso hasn't really done that for us. Would be smart to take advantage of Carolina and get him and Tanev, plus still do a Chairot cap dump.
8 nov. 2023 à 14 h 5
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Switch Hanas with Edvinsson or Kasper, drop the retention of chariot and you have yourself a deal


neither Detroit would be willing to trade. But still think Husso could be of real interest with Pesce involved or not
8 nov. 2023 à 14 h 36
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Modifié 8 nov. 2023 à 14 h 41
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neither Detroit would be willing to trade. But still think Husso could be of real interest with Pesce involved or not


Fine another one of your top prospects then. Trading away Pesce and taking on the Charoit contract is going to require a top-level prospect like Edvinsson or Kasper because the Hurricanes are taking on a an awful contract while trading away a very very good defender. The Hurricanes have no want or need for Ville's $4.75m deal for the next year and a half
8 nov. 2023 à 15 h 59
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NSH declines. This is a lot of quantity coming back to NSH and they don't need that, they need top end center and RD prospects. After those two it is LW, but it is not nearly as high of a priority.

The two LD's you have here get lost in NSH's system considering NSH already have the top 2 LD's in the WHL this season in terms of point production (Sward and Molendyk) along with 3 other LD's who are in the AHL who would at least be serviceable should they get called up. Hirose is of no interest considering NSH has plenty of bottom-six/mid-six wingers, both on roster and in system. Additionally, I can't see NSH trading Saros without a 1st being involved.

For NSH to consider moving arguably their top player it is going to take a high amount of quality, not necessarily quantity. As likely the top goalie to be on the market come the deadline, and already having a friendly contract for through next season as well, Trotz is going to ask for as high as he can get. We also already likely know that DET wouldn't be the only team calling about Saros. If DET is serious about picking up Saros, its likely going to cost them one of Danielson/Pellikka/Kasper and a 1st just to be competitive with other offers. If you want retention on Saros, NSH would probably ask for a 2nd or 3rd to be thrown on top of that considering that would be NSH's last retention spot, and it prevents them from getting a better return on someone like Barrie or Trenin at the deadline.

Its a high ask, but top 5 goalies in the league are worth the high quality, especially when they come with cap friendly term already attached.
10 nov. 2023 à 17 h 28
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I mean I understand, to a degree. Saros would be perfect to kind of help introduce Cossa into the NHL in 2025/26 plus will provide more consistency in goal. Pesce doesn't need to be the guy they get, they just need to get rid of Chiarot and get themselves a RHD that isn't terrible, probably Christopher Tanev would work better tbh for just price.


Saros would be fantastic…. But would be too expensive and his extension would alter the allocated plan for cap, meaning some tough losses or paying to rid themselves of certain contracts.

Pesce would essentially mean only one RHD out of ASP, Tuo, Ant, and Gibson would fit into future plans. As much as the right side of Seider-Pesce-ASP sounds lethal, it’s not practical in terms of a salary cap.
 
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