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Reciprocity Deadline

Créé par: Knuckl3s
Équipe: 2023-24 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 2 août 2023
Publié: 2 août 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
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VAN
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NYR)
3.
VAN
  1. Hakanpää, Jani
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Myers, Tyler (3 000 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $81 967 917 $850 000 $0 $1 532 083 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
883 750 $883 750 $
C
RFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Stars de Dallas
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
AD, C
RFA - 1

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2 août 2023 à 5 h 28
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If he was playing 15-17 minutes a night, LIKE Hakanpaa, he'd look better Hakanpaa, take that to the bank


Sure... then you woke up
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If he was playing 15-17 minutes a night, LIKE Hakanpaa, he'd look better Hakanpaa, take that to the bank


Sure... then you woke up
2 août 2023 à 5 h 28
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I don't really know what to tell you. He has been abysmal in a top 4 role, barely NHL caliber. If you want to hold his value over a calder trophy he won over a decade ago, be my guest. Just don't act like a team will pay a premium for him.


You weren't even listening to a word I said. Go learn some human decency FFS
2 août 2023 à 5 h 29
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Sure... then you woke up


Don't know what that is suppose to mean
2 août 2023 à 5 h 31
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Myers is still very much an NHL defenseman, he only looks that way because he was asked to play 20+ minutes. If he was playing 15-17 minutes a night, LIKE Hakanpaa, he'd look better Hakanpaa, take that to the bank


Then why trade him? Give him 15 minutes and let him "be better".
Because truth is, he isn't. Myers stinks.
2 août 2023 à 5 h 32
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Then why trade him? Give him 15 minutes and let him "be better".
Because truth is, he isn't. Myers stinks.


Lmao, your best comeback is to requote an older post that you already did and avoid the most recent one?
2 août 2023 à 5 h 34
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Lmao, your best comeback is to requote an older post that you already did and avoid the most recent one?


I already told you I don't know what else to say. Hakanpaa has shown to be a much more capable defenseman. Myers in that same role is a "what if". What we've seen from Myers is that he's terrible in a top 4 role. Combine that with a whopping 6m cap hit, good luck selling him to anybody,

Dallas isn't paying for a downgrade. Simple as that.
2 août 2023 à 5 h 41
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I already told you I don't know what else to say. Hakanpaa has shown to be a much more capable defenseman. Myers in that same role is a "what if". What we've seen from Myers is that he's terrible in a top 4 role. Combine that with a whopping 6m cap hit, good luck selling him to anybody,

Dallas isn't paying for a downgrade. Simple as that.


Myers has shown capability in a top 4 role, just not consistently, but those inconsistencies are not his fault, they are due to the surrounding environment being in a transition phase, obviously going from the previous regime that put irresponsibly put Myers in those difficult positions to try and succeed in, to the new regime that is trying to get more out of Myers, but didn't get to bring in their new coach right away, also not their fault. You're way overrating Hakanpaa, and now you've forgotten about the salary retention. You haven't considered all factors to definitively prove that the trade would be a downgrade for Dallas
2 août 2023 à 5 h 49
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Myers has shown capability in a top 4 role, just not consistently, but those inconsistencies are not his fault, they are due to the surrounding environment being in a transition phase, obviously going from the previous regime that put irresponsibly put Myers in those difficult positions to try and succeed in, to the new regime that is trying to get more out of Myers, but didn't get to bring in their new coach right away, also not their fault. You're way overrating Hakanpaa, and now you've forgotten about the salary retention. You haven't considered all factors to definitively prove that the trade would be a downgrade for Dallas


Myers has shown nothing in a top 4 role. He's been terrible. He is brutal at denials and isn't the best puck mover to equate for that. His 5v5 defensive impact has been almost non existent.

The salary retention doesn't thread the needle either. Dallas is taking on 1.5m more in CAP HIT and paying a 2nd for it just to downgrade on a defenseman who has had worse metrics than the one who has done well in their system. What is so hard to grasp about that?

I know Canucks fans REALLY want to make that Myers contract work, but please, he's not good. Stop trying to sell him as if he is.
2 août 2023 à 5 h 53
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Myers has shown nothing in a top 4 role. He's been terrible. He is brutal at denials and isn't the best puck mover to equate for that. His 5v5 defensive impact has been almost non existent.

The salary retention doesn't thread the needle either. Dallas is taking on 1.5m more in CAP HIT and paying a 2nd for it just to downgrade on a defenseman who has had worse metrics than the one who has done well in their system. What is so hard to grasp about that?

I know Canucks fans REALLY want to make that Myers contract work, but please, he's not good. Stop trying to sell him as if he is.


You still cherry picked those Myers stats based strictly on last season to forward your stupid agenda. Those numbers don't account for his play in the 2019-20 and 2021-22 seasons where he was actually serviceable instead of a liability. You try again
3 août 2023 à 2 h 18
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He had a positive defensive impact 5v5 in 2021, but in 2020 it was nearly as bad as it was this year. Sure, if you want to hang onto glimpses and flashes of "skill" that he's shown, be my guest. I'm not going to try and convince you that hes bad, I know he is, and if you are bewildered with stockholm syndrome then that isn't my concern. You can enjoy his albatross contract this season and cling onto the random 1-2 game she looks decent this season.

I'm not looking at 2-3 season's ago, I'm looking at last season.

And you've yet to explain to me why Dallas is paying a 2nd for a defenseman with a greater cap hit who's been worse analytically? Make it make sense to me?


It's not just 1-2 games, it's not about "flashes" of skill, and last season doesn't tell the whole story. As soon as you start making comparisons to psychological disorders, you lose all credibility
3 août 2023 à 2 h 27
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It's not just 1-2 games, it's not about "flashes" of skill, and last season doesn't tell the whole story. As soon as you start making comparisons to psychological disorders, you lose all credibility


As soon as you think Myers is anything BUT cap dump you lose all credibility.
3 août 2023 à 2 h 29
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As soon as you think Myers is anything BUT cap dump you lose all credibility.


After his signing bonus is paid, he's no longer a cap dump if he's traded with salary retention. Nice try
3 août 2023 à 2 h 31
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After his signing bonus is paid, he's no longer a cap dump if he's traded with salary retention. Nice try


You've yet to explain to me why Dallas is paying to downgrade.
3 août 2023 à 2 h 47
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You've yet to explain to me why Dallas is paying to downgrade.


I told you I don't see it as a downgrade, but fine, agree to disagree
3 août 2023 à 2 h 49
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I told you I don't see it as a downgrade, but fine, agree to disagree


Agree to disagree but what I failed to take in after all of this was even without Hakanpaa who's legitimately better you valued Myers at a 2nd
3 août 2023 à 3 h 0
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Agree to disagree but what I failed to take in after all of this was even without Hakanpaa who's legitimately better you valued Myers at a 2nd


Maybe that's because you're a troll. I've seen your toxic posts on other threads, you have the same perpetual mal-adjusted snarl about you in each of them
3 août 2023 à 3 h 27
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Maybe that's because you're a troll. I've seen your toxic posts on other threads, you have the same perpetual mal-adjusted snarl about you in each of them


Does my diagnosis come next?
3 août 2023 à 10 h 30
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Does my diagnosis come next?


It already has
 
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