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Leafs 23-24 Offseason

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Équipe: 2023-24 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 12 juin 2023
Publié: 12 juin 2023
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    12 juin 2023 à 19 h 37
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    Hell no! Why does SJ do this??
    12 juin 2023 à 19 h 46
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    Hell no! Why does SJ do this??


    Because they have the cap space and get a free pick, as well as a stanley cup veteran to work with a younger goaltender when they currently don't have a backup. And its only a one year commitment on a contract that isn't that bad. Maybe its a fifth or fourth instead but thats not really the point. Why wouldn't they do it?
    12 juin 2023 à 19 h 54
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    Quoting: Leafs23
    Because they have the cap space and get a free pick, as well as a stanley cup veteran to work with a younger goaltender when they currently don't have a backup. And its only a one year commitment on a contract that isn't that bad. Maybe its a fifth or fourth instead but thats not really the point. Why wouldn't they do it?


    Why doesn't TO just buy him out? Only pay him 400,000 on the cap this year and 2 million next. They'll have alot more cap room the following season, then they don't give anything up
    12 juin 2023 à 19 h 55
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    Because they have the cap space and get a free pick, as well as a stanley cup veteran to work with a younger goaltender when they currently don't have a backup. And its only a one year commitment on a contract that isn't that bad. Maybe its a fifth or fourth instead but thats not really the point. Why wouldn't they do it?


    Free 6 th round pick for taking on 5 mil in cap! Golly he wow how lucky are we! SMH this is ridiculous.
    They won’t do it because there are a dozen better goalies in the FA market that give the same thing and no one in hockey wants to do Toronto a favor. We’ve argued this over and over and over without a high pick we decline.
    12 juin 2023 à 19 h 56
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    Why doesn't TO just buy him out? Only pay him 400,000 on the cap this year and 2 million next. They'll have alot more cap room the following season, then they don't give anything up


    This is far more reasonable cause otherwise a 6th is a joke and no team accepts.
    12 juin 2023 à 20 h 0
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    Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto
    Why doesn't TO just buy him out? Only pay him 400,000 on the cap this year and 2 million next. They'll have alot more cap room the following season, then they don't give anything up


    I would be fine with that. I would buy him out before trading a third-rounder or more. Probably would rather buy him out than trading out of the first also. We are still in a solid spot cap-wise for the future. But if we can give up a fourth or less im happy to do it, and I dont think that will be difficult to make happen. He's a backup goalie realistically, with a little more upside if healthy, making a couple more million then he should with 1 year left. People seem to be overstating how bad of a contract it is because its the Leafs. If we can give up minimal assets id do it.
    12 juin 2023 à 20 h 2
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    I would be fine with that. I would buy him out before trading a third-rounder or more. Probably would rather buy him out than trading out of the first also. We are still in a solid spot cap-wise for the future. But if we can give up a fourth or less im happy to do it, and I dont think that will be difficult to make happen. He's a backup goalie realistically, with a little more upside if healthy, making a couple more million then he should with 1 year left. People seem to be overstating how bad of a contract it is because its the Leafs. If we can give up minimal assets id do it.


    The tandom next year is very likely Samsonov and Woll. Sammy probably makes 4.5 million, and Murray bought out. too injury prone, likely signs league minimum with another team
    12 juin 2023 à 20 h 5
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    Free 6 th round pick for taking on 5 mil in cap! Golly he wow how lucky are we! SMH this is ridiculous.
    They won’t do it because there are a dozen better goalies in the FA market that give the same thing and no one in hockey wants to do Toronto a favor. We’ve argued this over and over and over without a high pick we decline.


    Ok fine so its a fourth rounder instead of a 6th big deal. And cap is completely irrelevant to the sharks, they can take on this deal and not be close to touching the max. So in reality your not "taking on 5 mill in cap" because cap only matters to teams that are threatened by it. If anything it would be more about ownerships willingness to pay a couple extra million for a free fourth rounder. And did the people in hockey tell you that they hate toronto and don't want to do them favours even if they feel it benefits their team and jobs? I seem to remember the Sharks taking on 25% of Nick Foligno's cap hit for a fourth rounder to help the leafs out.
    12 juin 2023 à 20 h 7
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    Quoting: MediocrityAccetableInToronto
    The tandom next year is very likely Samsonov and Woll. Sammy probably makes 4.5 million, and Murray bought out. too injury prone, likely signs league minimum with another team


    Sammy absolutely does not get 4.5. At most I could see 4, but hes an RFA he doesnt have much negotiating leverage from everything ive seen high 3's sounds realistic. Murray will get more than the minimum in free agency, especially with a team that has free money to play with. He was fine last season. For example, Chicago just threw a lot of money at AA for no reason other than they could.
    12 juin 2023 à 20 h 9
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    Ok fine so its a fourth rounder instead of a 6th big deal. And cap is completely irrelevant to the sharks, they can take on this deal and not be close to touching the max. So in reality your not "taking on 5 mill in cap" because cap only matters to teams that are threatened by it. If anything it would be more about ownerships willingness to pay a couple extra million for a free fourth rounder. And did the people in hockey tell you that they hate toronto and don't want to do them favours even if they feel it benefits their team and jobs? I seem to remember the Sharks taking on 25% of Nick Foligno's cap hit for a fourth rounder to help the leafs out.


    See that’s more reasonable. And sharks ownership is willing to lose money but with bad attendance last year they may be hesitant to take on cap just to lose more money.

    And the 25% retention was for cap and I could be wrong but I don’t think sharks actually ever paid out real dollars to Foligno. But on that I could be 100% wrong.

    And I know most teams don’t love Toronto because you guys and Montreal are the cash cows and desired destination for most players. You also have to remember we offered Tavares 13 and he chose you guys at 11 that leaves some bitterness too.
    12 juin 2023 à 20 h 31
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    Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
    See that’s more reasonable. And sharks ownership is willing to lose money but with bad attendance last year they may be hesitant to take on cap just to lose more money.

    And the 25% retention was for cap and I could be wrong but I don’t think sharks actually ever paid out real dollars to Foligno. But on that I could be 100% wrong.

    And I know most teams don’t love Toronto because you guys and Montreal are the cash cows and desired destination for most players. You also have to remember we offered Tavares 13 and he chose you guys at 11 that leaves some bitterness too.


    Thats a solid point about the ownership but I have a hard time believing they would go as far as to nix such a minor deal because of a relatively small immediate financial loss. Also I do believe that when a team retains they pay salary. As far as bitterness goes, thats almost certainly a fan only thing. These are professionals who conduct business in that way. Toronto has never actually wronged san Jose and they have made deals in the past.
    12 juin 2023 à 21 h 20
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    Thats a solid point about the ownership but I have a hard time believing they would go as far as to nix such a minor deal because of a relatively small immediate financial loss. Also I do believe that when a team retains they pay salary. As far as bitterness goes, thats almost certainly a fan only thing. These are professionals who conduct business in that way. Toronto has never actually wronged san Jose and they have made deals in the past.


    Fair. But GM’s and owners ate a bit of a boys club and they do hold grudges. But that wasn’t Grier you snubbed so not sure it holds merit here.

    I see the sharks taking on cap dumps, but only for 1sts or 2nds not 4ths or 5ths. Could be wrong we will see.
    And Murray may not be a true cap dump but neither is Goodrow and rumor is NY will give up a 2nd to move him.
     
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