i would take petey over a LOT of the players you listed. and i mean a LOT.

Lindholm and Scheifele may be better. But they also play(ed) with pretty noteworthy linemates.
Pettersson has played this season with Kuzmenko and Mikh... and last year was all over the place with different makeshift lines.

A lot of those centers, while quality, are a reach just to prove an argument though.

Larkin, Suzuki, Thomas and Lindholm easily are. Barzal and Hertl are both very close but are better. And lets just take your argument, that still has Petey outside of the top 15 lmao. Yet nobody disputetd the fact that Dobson is without a doubt a top 11 RD

yet you didnt mention them lmao.

It is even more than this lol. I used GAR, xGAR, xOFF and more to prove my point as well. Look at point production and Petterson is even worse. Yall are just completley blinded.

Nonetheless, nobody even argued the fact that Dobson's 3x4mil with a slightly over 4 mil QO versus Petey's 2 year deal with a nearly 10.5 mil QO...

i’ll go. the only two players with a higher GAR total per evolving hockey than petey this year are jack eichel and matthew tkachuk. the guys i’d take over petey are mcdavid, matthews, mackinnon, drai, eichel, and crosby, assuming we’re talking literally today and not for the long term. he’d be a toss-up with barkov and hughes in that next group

adjust for TOI lmao. He is 38th this season among centers for xGAR adjusted per 60 minutes and 16th for GAR. Tt is great to be able to play a lot but efficiency matters lmao. Also xGAR is a far superior stat which he is 7th in, but again xGAR per 60 is superior.

Also he has never finished in the top 20 for centers in a season in the last three years for xGAR (adjusted per 60 or not)
21-22: 21st in xGAR
20-21: Outside of top 80 centers in xGAR

I mean come on lol. Hughes and Barkov solo and its not even close. Petterson has gotten completely overrated.

Again, his QO of 10.5+ is insane.

Larkin is a high end 2C. He is closer to Bo Horvat than Elias Pettersson. Barzal is absolutely not better than Pettersson, neither is Suzuki or Thomas... Elias Pettersson outproduced Suzuki last year despite being injuerd for half the year. Pettersson is also better defensively. There is also no way you think Thomas is better. He had one very good season, but Pettersson has easily been better over their career, and is much better this year. Pettersson is easily better offensively, and Thomas is a defensive liability. No kidding there are more centers better than Pettersson than there are RD better than Dobson. There is a lot less competition for RD. Doesn't mean Dobson is the better player.

Pettersson would be putting up 120 playing beside Tkachuk and Gaudreau. Look at Lindholm now. Not nearly as succesful now that his star linemates are gone

Never said Dobson was better. I said he was more valuable lol.

And the fact that there is "less competiton" is not the point you think it is. The complete lack of RD gives Dobson invaluable worth.

How many of those top centers better than Pettersson are U24? Dobson is valuable no doubt, however so is an elite 1C who likely hasn’t even entered his prime years yet

Advanced stat people only care to interpret stats the way they want to interpret them. This argument in all is like talking to a brick wall. Waste of time.

lmaooo i never once said that Petterson wasn't elite or an elite asset. He is 1000%.

My sole point was that an elite 22-year old RD on a 3x4 deal with ARB at just over 4 mil is worth more than an elite center on a 2x7.350 with ARB at just over 10.5 mil

I used logic, i used rankings, I used advanced stats and regular stats. My argument was never once that Peterson is worse than Dobson or that he is not elite, he is a franchise #1 asset to build a team around, but positional value would prevent the Islanders from moving on from Dobson.

At the end of the day, different teams have different needs. Different teams will prefer the center over the defenseman and vice versa. It isn’t like McDavid being more valuable than Anderson. That is just a fact.

Well the Canucks right side is Schenn-Bear-Myers and the Islanders centers are Barzal-Nelson-Pageau-Cizikas with our top two prospects being centers, along with Wahlstrom being a natural center.

I get why the canucks would do it, no reason for the islanders to pay the price of a center just to move them to wing

Horvat is an expiring UFA and Miller is not a good center. Trading Pettersson would leave Curtis Lazar as our 1C. Not ideal

and im not the one who said Peterson should get traded lol.