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P-O Joseph to Tampa Ian Cole situation

Créé par: Tourangeau
Publié: 11 oct. 2022 à 12 h 1
Plafond salarial: 82 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 184/185 (99%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPenguins de Pittsburgh

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Friedman, MarkPenguins de PittsburghMineures-0 $011---0000--
Joseph, Pierre-OlivierPenguins de PittsburghLNH-820 541 $011---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPIT)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Howard, IsaacLightning de Tampa BayListe de réserve-0 $001---------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial83 158 $2245613613
Variation820 541 $-1-2-10-10
Final903 699 $ (↑)21 (↓)43 (↓)60 (↓)35 (↓)13000

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Transaction simultanéeStatut initialNouveau statutImpact sur la masse salarialeFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Labrie, Pierre-CédricLNHMineures-770 800 $-1-----------
Fortier, GabrielLNHMineures-791 667 $-1-----------
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Howard, IsaacLightning de Tampa BayListe de réserve-0 $001---------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Friedman, MarkPenguins de PittsburghMineures-0 $011---0000--
Joseph, Pierre-OlivierPenguins de PittsburghLNH-825 000 $011---0000--
Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (Logo de Penguins de PittsburghPIT)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial0 $2048681513
Variation737 467 $-121010
Final737 467 $ (↑)19 (↓)50 (↑)69 (↑)16 (↑)13000
11 oct. 2022 à 12 h 40
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Tbh this doesnt make any sense for PIT
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11 oct. 2022 à 13 h 7
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Why Pittsburgh don’t have Space to add a NHL player and wich player can You add at 800k that will be better than the 12 forwards and the 6 deffenders right now. Don’t Forget that not a lot of team need a 6-7 deffender right now.
11 oct. 2022 à 14 h 9
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Is that their first round pick from this summer?? Tampa wouldn't do that. Just try and move POJ for a 3rd or 4th if you have no interest keeping him.
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11 oct. 2022 à 15 h 33
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P-O is a 21 overall pick why exchange him for a third pick.
Yes maybe if You redo the draft He will be a second rounder but his value are more than that. The reason why Pittsburgh want to exchange him is because He is ready for the NHL but Pittsburgh have 7 deffender better than him. Maybe a team who need a deffender should do a trade.
11 oct. 2022 à 16 h 18
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Quoting: Tourangeau
P-O is a 21 overall pick why exchange him for a third pick.
Yes maybe if You redo the draft He will be a second rounder but his value are more than that. The reason why Pittsburgh want to exchange him is because He is ready for the NHL but Pittsburgh have 7 deffender better than him. Maybe a team who need a deffender should do a trade.


He was drafted 5 years ago! Being the 23rd overall pick means nothing anymore. He has only played 20 games at the NHL level and doesn't project to be much more than a bottom pair guy with some offensive ability. A 3rd round pick is probably generous at this point for him.
11 oct. 2022 à 17 h 42
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P-O is a 21 overall pick why exchange him for a third pick.
Yes maybe if You redo the draft He will be a second rounder but his value are more than that. The reason why Pittsburgh want to exchange him is because He is ready for the NHL but Pittsburgh have 7 deffender better than him. Maybe a team who need a deffender should do a trade.



Yeah where you were drafted really means nothing to Your value 5 years later. TB is REALLY HIGH on Howard not happening.
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11 oct. 2022 à 23 h 3
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So P-O won’t be trade.
I don’t know why You don’t believe in him.
Recently Rilley stillman 24 years old 100 NHL game trade for a second round in 2024 and Jason dickinson.
Jack Mcbain 22 years old 0 NHL game was trade for a second round.
Jeremy Lauzon 25 years old 150 NHL game was trade for a second round.
Tell me that P-O Joseph value are at the best a third round pick. If that is the case Ron Hextall won’t trade him because he is better than that.
11 oct. 2022 à 23 h 22
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He was drafted 5 years ago! Being the 23rd overall pick means nothing anymore. He has only played 20 games at the NHL level and doesn't project to be much more than a bottom pair guy with some offensive ability. A 3rd round pick is probably generous at this point for him.

Yhea that’s the point He don’t play in the NHL because he is in Pittsburgh. If PO was with coyotes the last 2-3 years he play in the top 4 this year.
Pittsburgh are in the best team in the league for developpement. The Penguins rookie arrive in the NHL at 22-23 years old.
Exemple: Sheary-rust-Guentzel-Bluegers-archibald-dumoulin-ZAR-Letang
So maybe like you said at 23 he is a flop but I don’t believe in that. Give him a chance. Rust play his best hockey since is 27 years old before that nobody believe that He could be a Top 6 players.
 
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