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What I would like the Wild to do

Créé par: Kyle_Okposo_Lover
Équipe: 2022-23 Wild du Minnesota
Date de création initiale: 7 avr. 2022
Publié: 7 avr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
67 950 000 $
21 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 125 000 $
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1.
MIN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
anywhere
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MIN
  1. Marino, John
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
While I think Marino>Dumba, NHL teams have proven that they think that Dumba is some truly elite guy. I would not do this. If you are going to comment on it, make it about you doubting it happens. Not the value because to me this is what would happen, not what should
PIT
  1. Dumba, Matt
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
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2182 500 000 $82 199 421 $0 $1 532 500 $300 579 $
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UFA - 4
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
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UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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RFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
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7 575 000 $7 575 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 5
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3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
G
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 6
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4 400 000 $4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
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7 avr. 2022 à 20 h 50
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
its quite impressive how you cant read
I said Goligoski wants out so he waives his NMC
I said that this is in 2 and a half years so the lines will presumably me split up then. you think the lines will be the same for the next 2 and a half years? ok
And answer my question Which of those contracts that I listed out will be moved? you add all of them up with the dead cap of suter and parise you will be over the predicted cap of 83.5 mil. so again, tell me who will be moved


It's obvious sad how much you are baiting and sounding unreasonable. Yeah a player who just signed a two years no movement to stay with his hometown team is going to want out. Just stop dude, because you are being beyond lazy . It's none of your business who Guerin keep. Another team fan wanting foligno off wild so bad Is laughable
7 avr. 2022 à 20 h 51
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Yes you said they declined offers that were more than this:






I never said every offer is published, youre the one claiming that MIN declined big offers but you cant name any...



Youre saying insiders are valuing him very high but havent given any sources from insiders that talk about the return in a Dumba trade...



You doubt that a player coming off of a career year in production with 3.5 years left on his contract is worth more than an older, worse version of the same player with only 1 year on his contract?




Im not saying youre wrong, I was just curious about the source but you cant seem to provide one


He's baiting. He's an islanders fan who just creates alot of baiting post. That's all he does. He literally posted a fan article
7 avr. 2022 à 22 h 8
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Yes you said they declined offers that were more than this:






I never said every offer is published, youre the one claiming that MIN declined big offers but you cant name any...



Youre saying insiders are valuing him very high but havent given any sources from insiders that talk about the return in a Dumba trade...



You doubt that a player coming off of a career year in production with 3.5 years left on his contract is worth more than an older, worse version of the same player with only 1 year on his contract?




Im not saying youre wrong, I was just curious about the source but you cant seem to provide one


i never once said that they declined. i said that they were brought up in trades discussions and insiders predicted what the value was. I never said it was a formal offer that they rejected bro. and again, this is what im predicting for teams to be valuing these guys at
7 avr. 2022 à 22 h 12
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It's obvious sad how much you are baiting and sounding unreasonable. Yeah a player who just signed a two years no movement to stay with his hometown team is going to want out. Just stop dude, because you are being beyond lazy . It's none of your business who Guerin keep. Another team fan wanting foligno off wild so bad Is laughable


THIS IS LITERALLY 2 AND A HALF YEARS FROM NOW. This is a public page. if you are too weak and insecure to handle a stranger commenting about your team, then go ahead and dont come on to this websie because its literally what it is made for. I follow minnesota. I like the Wild. I am hopeful for this to happen. it is also very likely he retires but since youre such a fan of the wild, im sure you never thought of this.

i clearly stated that if you have nothing to provide of value, then dont comment. and here you are, just stating random things and straw-maninng an argument

anyways, please stop commenting unless you have something to provide other than basically bullying me.
7 avr. 2022 à 22 h 14
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Quoting: Carson
He's baiting. He's an islanders fan who just creates alot of baiting post. That's all he does. He literally posted a fan article


you cannot be for real lmao. people like you legit think that youre always right and get so defensive when someone brings up an imaginary idea of something that could happen TWO AND A HALF YEARS FROM NOW
7 avr. 2022 à 22 h 14
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Quoting: Carson
It's obvious sad how much you are baiting and sounding unreasonable. Yeah a player who just signed a two years no movement to stay with his hometown team is going to want out. Just stop dude, because you are being beyond lazy . It's none of your business who Guerin keep. Another team fan wanting foligno off wild so bad Is laughable


i really hope i do not wake up in the morning to see that you have continued to comment hate messages on MY thread
7 avr. 2022 à 23 h 48
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
you cannot be for real lmao. people like you legit think that youre always right and get so defensive when someone brings up an imaginary idea of something that could happen TWO AND A HALF YEARS FROM NOW


You aren't a wild fan, and all you do is try to bail wild fans. How about you stop
7 avr. 2022 à 23 h 49
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
THIS IS LITERALLY 2 AND A HALF YEARS FROM NOW. This is a public page. if you are too weak and insecure to handle a stranger commenting about your team, then go ahead and dont come on to this websie because its literally what it is made for. I follow minnesota. I like the Wild. I am hopeful for this to happen. it is also very likely he retires but since youre such a fan of the wild, im sure you never thought of this.

i clearly stated that if you have nothing to provide of value, then dont comment. and here you are, just stating random things and straw-maninng an argument

anyways, please stop commenting unless you have something to provide other than basically bullying me.


Yeah I am sure our gm cares what you think about foligno or that you , a non wild fan wants foligno off wild, really.
8 avr. 2022 à 8 h 6
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You aren't a wild fan, and all you do is try to bail wild fans. How about you stop


ok ill make this easy. the wild currently have 44.7 mil salary in 23-24. And the 14.73 buyout dead cap. That is 59.4 mil. That leaves about 23 mil to sign: Fiala, Boldy, Jost, Gaudreau, Dumba, Middleton and two goalies. Please tell me how you will fit that.
Fiala about 8
Boldy 5-7 and could be more
Jost 2-3
That leaves about 5 mil. And this is half of your roster. So you need about 7-8 more forwards. Lets say they all make 950k (which wont happen but to be nice to you). Thats 6.65 mil.
Then defense. You need about 3 more. Lets be nice and say theyre only one mil. Thats now 3 mil
We have no goalies as of now btw
That is:
28,050,000 is what is already signed for then+
8,000,000 for Fiala
6,000,000 for Boldy.
2,500,000 for Jost
6,650,000 for rest of offense
That is 51200000 for the offense

Defense:
16,775,000 for what is locked up right now+
3,000,000 for rest of dense
Not even including Dumba here. Or Middleton's QO. We will be nice to you and assume he signs for 1 mil or so

That is 19,775,000

19,775,000+51200000= 70975000
70975000+14,743,588 (the dead cap of Parise and Suter)= 85718588

Now goalies:
925,000 for Wallstedt
And to be nice only 1 mil for a backup.

This is all now 87643588. While being nice to you. And while assuming we go as cheap as possible. So no performance bonuses etc

So out of ALL of those players, the only ones without a NMC are:
Jon Merril
Erikkson Ek (to my knowledge)--- not getting traded because he just extended for 8 years and will have 7 years left by now
Fiala maybe
Foligno
Greenway

You need to shed about 4-5 mil BEST CASE scenario. Who is out? Greenway? Maybe Merrill gets sent down or moved. You need one of Foligno or Greenway to go, too
8 avr. 2022 à 15 h 38
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
ok ill make this easy. the wild currently have 44.7 mil salary in 23-24. And the 14.73 buyout dead cap. That is 59.4 mil. That leaves about 23 mil to sign: Fiala, Boldy, Jost, Gaudreau, Dumba, Middleton and two goalies. Please tell me how you will fit that.
Fiala about 8
Boldy 5-7 and could be more
Jost 2-3
That leaves about 5 mil. And this is half of your roster. So you need about 7-8 more forwards. Lets say they all make 950k (which wont happen but to be nice to you). Thats 6.65 mil.
Then defense. You need about 3 more. Lets be nice and say theyre only one mil. Thats now 3 mil
We have no goalies as of now btw
That is:
28,050,000 is what is already signed for then+
8,000,000 for Fiala
6,000,000 for Boldy.
2,500,000 for Jost
6,650,000 for rest of offense
That is 51200000 for the offense

Defense:
16,775,000 for what is locked up right now+
3,000,000 for rest of dense
Not even including Dumba here. Or Middleton's QO. We will be nice to you and assume he signs for 1 mil or so

That is 19,775,000

19,775,000+51200000= 70975000
70975000+14,743,588 (the dead cap of Parise and Suter)= 85718588

Now goalies:
925,000 for Wallstedt
And to be nice only 1 mil for a backup.

This is all now 87643588. While being nice to you. And while assuming we go as cheap as possible. So no performance bonuses etc

So out of ALL of those players, the only ones without a NMC are:
Jon Merril
Erikkson Ek (to my knowledge)--- not getting traded because he just extended for 8 years and will have 7 years left by now
Fiala maybe
Foligno
Greenway

You need to shed about 4-5 mil BEST CASE scenario. Who is out? Greenway? Maybe Merrill gets sent down or moved. You need one of Foligno or Greenway to go, too


You can keep insisting wild need them to go , and you are wrong. You don't know anything about the cal or wild. Fiala leaving means Minnesota has the cap. Yeah I am sure all the player's Guerin gave an extension to will be moved
8 avr. 2022 à 16 h 32
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
Yes you said they declined offers that were more than this:


He gave you the source. I guess Avs fans can't read as well... By far Avs fans are the worst fanbase in the NHL



I never said every offer is published, youre the one claiming that MIN declined big offers but you cant name any...



Youre saying insiders are valuing him very high but havent given any sources from insiders that talk about the return in a Dumba trade...



You doubt that a player coming off of a career year in production with 3.5 years left on his contract is worth more than an older, worse version of the same player with only 1 year on his contract?




Im not saying youre wrong, I was just curious about the source but you cant seem to provide one
8 avr. 2022 à 19 h 9
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Quoting: Carson
You can keep insisting wild need them to go , and you are wrong. You don't know anything about the cal or wild. Fiala leaving means Minnesota has the cap. Yeah I am sure all the player's Guerin gave an extension to will be moved


dude im sorry but are you serious right now? answer the question. and i dont know anything about the cap? i copy and pasted the EXACT cap hits from capfriendly. the exact numbers. but answer the question

and if in your weird message u said that Fiala will go, then how about whoever you get in return? thatll leave probaly 2-4 mil in cap and i assume you will go after a replacement forward for cheaper in any deal. anyways, is fiala who you meant?
8 avr. 2022 à 19 h 28
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
dude im sorry but are you serious right now? answer the question. and i dont know anything about the cap? i copy and pasted the EXACT cap hits from capfriendly. the exact numbers. but answer the question

and if in your weird message u said that Fiala will go, then how about whoever you get in return? thatll leave probaly 2-4 mil in cap and i assume you will go after a replacement forward for cheaper in any deal. anyways, is fiala who you meant?


Yeah I am sure a 1st round pick and elc will impact our team. Get over it. We aren't dealing foligno. Your upset with infactual info
8 avr. 2022 à 22 h 13
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Quoting: Carson
Yeah I am sure a 1st round pick and elc will impact our team. Get over it. We aren't dealing foligno. Your upset with infactual info


you are refusing to address my point. I listed the 5 players who do not have NMC in 23-24. Out of those 5, only two could truly be moved: Greenway and Foligno. One of them is out. You are also refusing to accept that in two years once Khovanov, Khusnutdinov and Beckman are all full time NHLers that some players will have to go. anyways, im glad that i could prove i am right. love u
 
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