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Stealing from the Poor

Créé par: UpsideDownQue
Date de création initiale: 4 déc. 2021
Publié: 4 déc. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Explications
Fast forward a month or so (Compher, Kuemper, etc assumed healthy) and assuming there are no other major injuries

im not sure if this is a fair offer or not
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Zub, Artem
OTT
  1. Kaut, Martin
  2. 2023 2e round pick (COL)
  3. 2023 3e round pick (COL)
Détails additionnels:
2nd upgrades to 1st if COL wins the cup in either 2022 or 2023 and Zub is in COLs top 4 D in TOI in the playoffs that year
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
COL
COL
COL
COL
2023
COL
COL
COL
COL
2024
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
COL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $81 143 963 $1 741 463 $3 350 000 $356 037 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
COL
Landeskog, Gabriel
7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
COL
MacKinnon, Nathan
6 300 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
COL
Rantanen, Mikko
9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
COL
Nichushkin, Valeri
2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
COL
Kadri, Nazem
4 500 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
COL
Burakovsky, André
4 900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
COL
Jost, Tyson
2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 2
COL
Newhook, Alex
908 333 $
C
RFA - 2
COL
O'Connor, Logan
725 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
COL
Helm, Darren
1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
COL
Compher, J.T.
3 500 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
COL
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas
1 075 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
COL
Toews, Devon
4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
COL
Makar, Cale
9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
COL
Kuemper, Darcy
3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
COL
Girard, Samuel
5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 6
OTT
Zub, Artem
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
COL
Francouz, Pavel
2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
COL
Byram, Bowen
894 167 $
DG
RFA - 2
COL
Johnson, Erik
6 000 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
COL
Johnson, Jack
750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
COL
Murray, Ryan
2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Landeskog, G.
Kadri, N.
Rantanen, M.
MacKinnon, N.
Makar, C.
Avantage numérique 2
Compher, J.
Newhook, A.
Burakovsky, A.
Toews, D.
Girard, S.
Infériorité numérique 1
Jost, T.
Nichushkin, V.
Toews, D.
, .
Infériorité numérique 2
Helm, D.
O'Connor, L.
Byram, B.
Johnson, E.

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4 déc. 2021 à 15 h 13
#1
Xercuses
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Its not at least a first
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4 déc. 2021 à 15 h 16
#2
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don't think the sens part with zub for that. has to be at least a first or a much better prospect
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4 déc. 2021 à 15 h 21
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Quoting: xercuses
Its not at least a first


Quoting: bagelbob
don't think the sens part with zub for that. has to be at least a first or a much better prospect


1st + Kaut?
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4 déc. 2021 à 15 h 24
#4
Xercuses
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
1st + Kaut?


Maybe but i think Ott sees him as a long term guy atm so idk
but imo hes on par with EJ so maybe go ater a guy like Holl instead?
4 déc. 2021 à 15 h 35
#5
Serf
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Quoting: xercuses
Maybe but i think Ott sees him as a long term guy atm so idk
but imo hes on par with EJ so maybe go ater a guy like Holl instead?


I compare Zub to Cernak
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4 déc. 2021 à 15 h 42
#6
KFTW
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Quoting: sensibleguy
I compare Zub to Cernak


I just don’t think it makes sense to trade Zub when it’s so hard to find a replacement. Probably going to be extended next summer for 6 years at right under 5 mill
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4 déc. 2021 à 15 h 58
#7
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I think he's totally off limits. He's a 1st pair quality RHD. The Sens will need him if they're ever going to turn the corner
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4 déc. 2021 à 17 h 41
#8
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Easy pass from Ottawa. Deal would need to start with a first, especially if the 1st is as late as Colorado's would be
4 déc. 2021 à 18 h 53
#9
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
1st + Kaut?


Martin Kaut doesn't accomplish much for Ottawa. They have a ton of forward prospects who will fight to crtack the roster in the near future. I mean, they let Duclair walk as a RFA (very stupid) just before the 2020-21 season and Balcers go on waivers (very stupid). Big numbers game, although there's a lot of incompetence in management/coaching

Look at Batherson, Tkachuk and Chabot contracts (and soon Norris), Sens would be very stupid to sell actual good players for futures. There's still several problems but they need to ADD, not SUBTRACT

Zub should have been signed on a long term deal but for some reason, our genius GM rushed to sign him for 2 years as soon as the 2020-21 season finished.

Quoting: TheBoyDuddus
Easy pass from Ottawa. Deal would need to start with a first, especially if the 1st is as late as Colorado's would be


Not even, Zub should just be available in package for a clear upgrade.
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4 déc. 2021 à 22 h 54
#10
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1st plus Kaut is probably fair value on face of it, however I think OTT should decline. The upside on Zub is worth holding out for.
 
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