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Créé par: koremoo
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 15 nov. 2021
Publié: 15 nov. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3825 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 700 000 $
2750 000 $
2750 000 $
3750 000 $
3750 000 $
2880 000 $
2750 000 $
22 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
3750 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Girard, Samuel
Détails additionnels:
Trade made during the previous season
COL
  1. Struble, Jayden [Liste de réserve]
  2. Toffoli, Tyler
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2182 500 000 $75 942 916 $1 132 500 $1 352 500 $6 557 084 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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2 700 000 $2 700 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 5
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
880 000 $880 000 $
G
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
DG
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 4

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15 nov. 2021 à 13 h 17
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Romanov will get Valimaki deal IMO
15 nov. 2021 à 14 h 12
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Would you trade Suzuki for Valeri Nichushkin, Alex Beaucage, and a 4th?

No? Yeah, no one gives away young talent signed to great deals for a pile of crap. Easy decline by the Avs.
16 nov. 2021 à 8 h 56
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Quoting: Foppa21
Would you trade Suzuki for Valeri Nichushkin, Alex Beaucage, and a 4th?

No? Yeah, no one gives away young talent signed to great deals for a pile of crap. Easy decline by the Avs.


Since when is Toffoli crap? And I don't think you've done your research on Struble either lol. Unless you think that Girard is Cale Makar, tone down your expectations on what you'll get for him. Toffoli is a 30-goal scorer, Struble is a B+ prospect and you also get a mid-round pick. Toffoli in itself is a great piece to add to the Avs since he's got term and a low price tag for a win now team. Add in the prospect and pick, it's a very solid deal for the Avs.
16 nov. 2021 à 11 h 0
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Since when is Toffoli crap? And I don't think you've done your research on Struble either lol. Unless you think that Girard is Cale Makar, tone down your expectations on what you'll get for him. Toffoli is a 30-goal scorer, Struble is a B+ prospect and you also get a mid-round pick. Toffoli in itself is a great piece to add to the Avs since he's got term and a low price tag for a win now team. Add in the prospect and pick, it's a very solid deal for the Avs.


Toffoli is a 29-year-old winger who has historically put up decent numbers. Not a bad pickup by any means, but he will regress towards the back half of his deal so he's no trade centerpiece. Struble was drafted in the second round and hasn't done all that much to impress since. Drew Helleson, drafted by the Avs with the next pick, has been far better. Not to mention the Avs have a wealth of D prospects in Barron, Helleson, and Behrens. They are in need of forward prospects, not D. So to reiterate, you're trying to trade Toffoli (will regress shortly), Struble (not impressing), and a 4th for Girard, a 23-year-old Norris caliber defenseman signed at $5m for the next 6 years. Where is this a solid deal for the Avs?

If the Avs really do trade Girard, which is a big if, it will be for a similar age and quality forward signed for term (e.g. William Nylander), not Toffoli and an average defensive prospect.

As for the Norris reference: https://theathletic.com/2501883/2021/04/07/do-we-need-to-rethink-how-we-judge-norris-candidates-samuel-girard-adam-fox-and-others-are-forcing-the-question/
19 nov. 2021 à 10 h 53
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Toffoli is a 29-year-old winger who has historically put up decent numbers. Not a bad pickup by any means, but he will regress towards the back half of his deal so he's no trade centerpiece. Struble was drafted in the second round and hasn't done all that much to impress since. Drew Helleson, drafted by the Avs with the next pick, has been far better. Not to mention the Avs have a wealth of D prospects in Barron, Helleson, and Behrens. They are in need of forward prospects, not D. So to reiterate, you're trying to trade Toffoli (will regress shortly), Struble (not impressing), and a 4th for Girard, a 23-year-old Norris caliber defenseman signed at $5m for the next 6 years. Where is this a solid deal for the Avs?

If the Avs really do trade Girard, which is a big if, it will be for a similar age and quality forward signed for term (e.g. William Nylander), not Toffoli and an average defensive prospect.

As for the Norris reference: https://theathletic.com/2501883/2021/04/07/do-we-need-to-rethink-how-we-judge-norris-candidates-samuel-girard-adam-fox-and-others-are-forcing-the-question/


"Norris caliber defenseman" ok buddy. I'll give it to you, the Avs have 2 Norris caliber defensemen but Girard isn't one of them. Toews and Makar are levels above him and even then I think Toews is a longshot to ever contend for a Norris. Girard is a good young defenseman and if you look to move him, I can't imagine you get anyone better than a Toffoli, who has cup experience btw.
22 nov. 2021 à 9 h 59
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"Norris caliber defenseman" ok buddy. I'll give it to you, the Avs have 2 Norris caliber defensemen but Girard isn't one of them. Toews and Makar are levels above him and even then I think Toews is a longshot to ever contend for a Norris. Girard is a good young defenseman and if you look to move him, I can't imagine you get anyone better than a Toffoli, who has cup experience btw.


Let's look at the stats (https://www.hockey-reference.com/), shall we? We'll compare Girard with the previous three Norris winners.

2020-2021 Season Points per Game:
Roman Josi = 0.68
Samuel Girard = 0.68
Victor Hedman = 0.83
Adam Fox = 0.85

2020-2021 Season CF%:
Adam Fox = 53.1
Victor Hedman = 55.1
Roman Josi = 55.9
Samuel Girard = 60.2

2020-2021 Season Fenwick%:
Adam Fox = 53.9
Victor Hedman = 54.1
Roman Josi = 56.1
Samuel Girard = 59.6

Now you seem like someone who relies heavily on their gut feel, so let me explain it all. Girard didn't score as many points as Fox and Hedman (who are both PP1 with Girard on PP2), but was far and away the better defenseman by possession metrics. Now you're going to scoff at that and say "ok, sure buddy," but the stats don't lie. As for us not getting anyone better than Toffoli, Girard was in the Eichel offer from the Avs. Eichel was quoted as having said that he thought he was going to Colorado over the summer, and the only reason it didn't go through was because Buffalo refused to retain any salary. So let's put that notion to bed. Seems to me I just disproved every point you made, so maybe stop while you're ahead?
 
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