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Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 17 juill. 2021
Publié: 17 juill. 2021
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I've just think of that : What if the plan of MB is simple : let Seattle take Price and then retook him with Seattle retains some money so they can go even more big hunting in return from draft picks and prospect????

And i know the rest i went berserk because why not

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      18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 37
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      explain?

      I don't see either part doing this deal, it was for fun and i'm sure that's an equal deal


      From a Montreal fan. From the rest of the league Drouin is a 100% dead cap dump. No-one knows what's wrong, whether he'll play, will it happen again, etc....
      18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 37
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      For 5.25 mil for 5 years there are no untouchables....


      yes there is some intouchables, but only the big names, the rest is avaible
      18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 38
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      Quoting: Riley816
      From a Montreal fan. From the rest of the league Drouin is a 100% dead cap dump. No-one knows what's wrong, whether he'll play, will it happen again, etc....


      he's a wild card, nobody knows, everybody knows he as skills and his problems. We never know (he's not the #1 piece of the deal)
      18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 41
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      I'm againg taking the example of the 2018 habs : They trade their captain and change with younger players .

      And what happened : They almost make the playoffs due to a stack eastenr, and two years later they make to the finals

      The habs when they make the tatar deal they needed a big prospect (Suzuki) the rest was an add (tatar was just a cap dump and he's being good with them)


      The habs got Suzuki which was a positional need remember the 2018 habs were after years with the core falling, Van's full core hasn't even been together for over 2 years... and have made it one game away from the wcf just doesn't make sense
      18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 44
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      Quoting: theleano1
      The habs got Suzuki which was a positional need remember the 2018 habs were after years with the core falling, Van's full core hasn't even been together for over 2 years... and have made it one game away from the wcf just doesn't make sense


      look at this vancouver team and says that this is a team that right now can go to the finals

      spoilers : they're not

      they need help at the blueline
      they need assests (prospects) so they can do side deals with other teams to take bad contract without hurting they're prospect pool
      they need a retool
      18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 47
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      look at this vancouver team and says that this is a team that right now can go to the finals

      spoilers : they're not

      they need help at the blueline
      they need assests (prospects) so they can do side deals with other teams to take bad contract without hurting they're prospect pool
      they need a retool


      They need help on the right side of D, which was not given in this package, this team is just coming out of a rebuild they will get another a prospect to add to an amazing core, van core is fine they just need to get better depth peices, example the Dickinson trade today, if Van get a Larsson type of Dman this team will be alot better then people think
      18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 50
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      Quoting: theleano1
      They need help on the right side of D, which was not given in this package, this team is just coming out of a rebuild they will get another a prospect to add to an amazing core, van core is fine they just need to get better depth peices, example the Dickinson trade today, if Van get a Larsson type of Dman this team will be alot better then people think


      i'd agree,. but the other major vancouver problem is they have a lot of awfull contract that they need to remoove to get the players they need. It kinda sucks for them to loose a great player, but if with that passests you manage them to remove some awfull contract you could have the potential of getting better with searching the pieces you need (exept if bennings goes berserk and sing a 4rth liner 4m)
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      I liked how many people are like wtf have you done with this idea and trades XD
      18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 53
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      i'd agree,. but the other major vancouver problem is they have a lot of awfull contract that they need to remoove to get the players they need. It kinda sucks for them to loose a great player, but if with that passests you manage them to remove some awfull contract you could have the potential of getting better with searching the pieces you need (exept if bennings goes berserk and sing a 4rth liner 4m)


      The issue Is Van's bad contracts are coming off the books next year they have 21 mill this summer 15 of it will got to Hughes and Pettersson that still gives them 6 mill to fill out the roster and this is pre expansion good chance Virtanen is either bought out or terminated so another 2mil in cap space right there
      18 juill. 2021 à 0 h 58
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      The issue Is Van's bad contracts are coming off the books next year they have 21 mill this summer 15 of it will got to Hughes and Pettersson that still gives them 6 mill to fill out the roster and this is pre expansion good chance Virtanen is either bought out or terminated so another 2mil in cap space right there


      And Petersson and Hugues contract are up... now

      all of their bad contract is up next year, but rn they're in trouble

      if both asked for about 15 m, they have no money for the rest of the team

      the problem in now, not next year
      18 juill. 2021 à 1 h 0
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      And Petersson and Hugues contract are up... now

      all of their bad contract is up next year, but rn they're in trouble

      if both asked for about 15 m, they have no money for the rest of the team

      the problem in now, not next year


      I just said they have 21 mil this offseasons, no team would sigh them for 15 mil per that's just stupid reasoning, McDavid doesn't even make that
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      Quoting: theleano1
      I just said they have 21 mil this offseasons, no team would sigh them for 15 mil per that's just stupid reasoning, McDavid doesn't even make that


      I said 15 for both x) , like hugues prob 8 and petersson 7

      they will have 6 m to sign :

      Dickinson, Hawrelyuk, 2 top 6 d , Juolevi, some 4rth line guys, ideally a solid top 4 d, etc.

      they don't have cap space at all this season
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      I said 15 for both x) , like hugues prob 8 and petersson 7

      they will have 6 m to sign :

      Dickinson, Hawrelyuk, 2 top 6 d , Juolevi, some 4rth line guys, ideally a solid top 4 d, etc.

      they don't have cap space at all this season


      Dickinson will make at most 2 mil 4 mil to level out the rest of the roster jouilevi will be in the ahl same with hawrluck remember this pre expansion and buy outs they will be just fine
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      Quoting: theleano1
      Dickinson will make at most 2 mil 4 mil to level out the rest of the roster jouilevi will be in the ahl same with hawrluck remember this pre expansion and buy outs they will be just fine


      yeah they can buy outs, but it will cost long term, and if we says that dickinson gets 3 m , you'll have 3m to filles 2 d, one or two fowards and the league minimum is 750k, and i doubt that the players will want that (especially the D, the NEED a top 4 D right now)
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      yeah they can buy outs, but it will cost long term, and if we says that dickinson gets 3 m , you'll have 3m to filles 2 d, one or two fowards and the league minimum is 750k, and i doubt that the players will want that (especially the D, the NEED a top 4 D right now)


      Dickinson doesn't get 3 mill is the issue lol we arent in bad cap trouble some moves to get around it if hoblty gets taken by seatlle that pretty much solves the cap issue this year, worse case scenario they have one more down year, and load up next year but they are going to be aggressive, there isnt a reason for van to do this trade especially for cap reasons
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      18 juill. 2021 à 1 h 17
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      Quoting: theleano1
      Dickinson doesn't get 3 mill is the issue lol we arent in bad cap trouble some moves to get around it if hoblty gets taken by seatlle that pretty much solves the cap issue this year, worse case scenario they have one more down year, and load up next year but they are going to be aggressive, there isnt a reason for van to do this trade especially for cap reasons


      Looking at the goalies avaiable i doubt that (prob price and drieger and kahkonen)

      i mean we'll see it's was an original idea and i expected vancouver fan to not agreeing with this

      but there's a little challenge for you : make a deal that evolves Horvat and the habs without having these names in it : Caufield, Suzuki, Primeau and Romanov


      well i'm gonna more continuing to argue tomorrow, need to sleep in life happy
      18 juill. 2021 à 2 h 23
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      Quoting: nepTrystan
      explain?

      I don't see either part doing this deal, it was for fun and i'm sure that's an equal deal


      Why would VAN trade their Captain? also for a winger
       
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