Sharks don’t want Subban just FYI

Don’t mind him but we need better quality goaltenders than what he is.

Bad trade for Vegas IMO

Colorado happily signs Landeskog 6x8....

Doesn't necessarily need to be landerskog but points to a greater capacity of Cap space for a big time winger. What do you gauge as a figure COL won't go to?

Why is that? You Theodore can return to LD and assuming Martinez goes elsewhere its a good replacement and better then Whitecloud and then the Strome gives you centre depth, I presume you would also like a pick? I would probably agree and that could be made to happen no problem.

7x10.

Colorado can still go 8 x8.5 and the money, total contract is close and Colorado has home team advantage.

And Vegas doesn't take on extra money with no improvement....

Interesting....

For the VGK trade, by virtue of value this is how the trade was based Tuch > Strome and Murphy > Whitecloud and fills a need of the VGK.

Failing this proposal I would consider this: (ultimately begrudgingly)

Receive:

-Z.Whitecloud
-2021 VGK 1st

Receive:

-D.Strome
-2021 2nd

Yeah that all makes sense, I'm just really high on Tuch haha.

Yeah vegas isn’t doing that….
Tuch>strome. Wouldn’t think about it last year, definitely not this year….
I’d prefer Whitecloud over Murphy with his age and cap hot as well

Even with Murphy extended? Your top 4 D would be proper beast with a good mix of Shutdown D and two way men.

I like Whitecloud to take that next step into that role, and will be cheaper. It’s not like Murphy is an offensive wizard. I just don’t like giving up the better piece at all

I know Murph isn't the offensive wizard but his D ability is quite good and he is reponsibly sound. Although Whitecloud could make another step, Murph is already there and helps continue your win now persistence.

Overall I would like to keep Murphy but just wanted to gauge what value VGK has and if this would be seen as mutually beneficial.

Losing Tuch is too much IMO

fair enough, his production, cap hit and versatility make him enticing.

Sergachev isn’t worth two first rounders plus prospects

What do you feel is his value?

the first this year a B grade prospect and a mid pick. In my eyes anyway

Is that from a TBL point of view or are you a neutral? The reason I ask is because I agree with you on the value though have done that previously and the feedback was that more was required.