VAN will protect Schmidt.

Detroit have no use for Roussel.

Detroit already have a whole bunch of left wingers and so would have to waive Roussel and send him to Grand Rapids.

This season Detroit got a 2nd round pick for taking on Staal who pkayed in a position where Detroit needed help. Staal's salary was 3.2 million.

If you want Detroit to take on the contract of a player they have no use for then you have to offer more than what we got for a player we had use for.

Make it a 2nd + a 3rd and you might be in with a chance.

Idk about signing Bonino to a 2M AAV contract. Imo that's just too much, It'd have to be something around 1.4 or 1.45 million to make sense because he's good depth at center but not worth 2 million even though he's still a good player no doubt.

Thanks Yzerman. Yeah I am aware of DET's roster. I am not expecting him to be a roster player, good chance he would be waived. There's no way DET would get a 2nd + 3rd though. It would be a simple deal of a 73rd overall)pick for taking on less than $2m in salary. The NYR pick will be a 49th overall.

Yes I think they will in the real world. This was just an idea to clear cap so we could have a run at a legit #1 Dman in free agency.

$2m is pretty cheap for a guy that scored 26 pts in 55 games (39 pts per 82) playing only 15 mins a night and 63% Dzone starts.

It's simply not enough for Detroit to be interested.

There will be several other cap dump deals offered to Detroit this year.

Gardiner and Ghost on LD, Tyler Johnson on C, James Neal just to mention a few of them.

Detroit simply cannot do all of them due to there being a 50-contract limit in the NHL. That means that Detroit will choose the deals that brings the best return for Detroit and best is measured in:
1. How good and how useful the player is to Detroit.
2. What Detroit is getting paid to take him on.

Your offer will not win that competition.

If you think the price is too high then Detroit will be happy to let you keep the player.
Detroit is not a charity thats there only to let Canadian teams dump their unwanted players for no cost.
Oh, why is it only ACGMs of Canadian teams that are trying this? Do you know?

I am guessing but it could be that we consider your team to be inferior and only worthy of our cap dumps for "no cost"...paranoid are we?

Let me put a proposal to you.

You have the opportunity to choose one of two offers that are made to your team.

Offer 1. A useful player and a 2nd round pick to take over his contract.

Offer 2. A player you have no use for and a 3rd round pick to take on his contract.

Which one of those two deals would you make?

Think about it carefully. 2nd + useful or 3rd + useless?

Well?

The world is not as black and white as you make out.

If I can only choose ONE offer then of course it would be the better offer. However, you speak as if there is an offer on the table right now for a useful player in exchange for a 2nd round pick. I am not aware of that offer. You brought up the Staal deal, well that was last season. So it is quite possible for DET to choose both Offer 1 and Offer 2, since they have the space and they want the picks.

Other critical parts of the deal when taking on cap are: the the amount of cap, the length of the contract, and the amount of actual salary to pay. If you would take on James Neal (might be considered more useful than Roussel) for a 2nd round pick, then you are a mug. He has three years remaining at $5.75m (cap and actual salary). So the cost-benefit analysis is important. The cost of taking on Roussel is low (one year at $1.9m salary) and the benefit (a 78th overall pick) is pretty good and fair in my opinion.

You talk about the 50 contract limit. Detroit only has 23 contracts signed for next season. There is plenty of room to make more than one deal to take on cap in exchange for picks, if Detroit chooses to. They could resign every one of their 13 RFAs and still have space to do 14 such deals, so contract numbers are not particularly relevant. Not every deal will yield the same result.

You say Roussel is "useless". He is not useless. He can be used an effective 3rd line scoring winger or as a 4th line shutdown winger. I would rate him above quite a few players on your current roster.

I can see my words are wasted on you, so I won't continue the discussion any further.