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Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 1 oct. 2019
Publié: 1 oct. 2019
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1 oct. 2019 à 9 h 51
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hell no price can get you more
1 oct. 2019 à 10 h 29
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Why would Montreal be looking to move Price?
If we had Kinkaid or Primeau as our starter then it'd take a miracle for us to pass 70 points.
1 oct. 2019 à 10 h 36
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primeau will be our near future starting goalie for years,price has value and could easily play another 6yrs. mtl cashes that check ,however would not want to be the gm that trades price
1 oct. 2019 à 10 h 50
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Quoting: bohorvat
hell no price can get you more


Based on?

Because in this trade offer I don't see anything about retained salary, which will continue to be the single biggest obstacle in the way of trading him. 10.5m for a goaltender in today's cap environment is just way too much. The cap hit of the last three Stanley Cup winning goaltenders COMBINED was...ironically...$10,500,000! Teams don't build around goalies anymore, they build around superstars and supporting role/depth players. In the goaltending department, they compromise performance with affordability..think bang for the buck.

You also need to consider, that the theoretical team trading for Price would be a contender who needs a goalie...where is a contending team getting 10.5m in free cap space for the next 7 seasons? Calgary sure doesn't have it!

The reality is that if a trade is to be made including Price, Montreal will need to eat money as well as take a perceived "loss" when we talk about Price's value as a player..simply because of his contract. So we can forget this idea of "you can get more" or "he's the best goalie", because that value isn't going to show up in any real life trade for him. They should certainly get some quality in return, but not the same quality as they would if Price's quality as a player were the only variable.

And all of this is with the given assumption that he doesn't get hurt yet again. Oh...and that he waives his full no movement clause to go to Calgary...

I enjoy watching him as a fan of the game, and he is truly a phenomenal goalie, but that's where it ends. I don't see Montreal ever moving this guy.
1 oct. 2019 à 10 h 55
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Quoting: SuprDave45
Based on?

Because in this trade offer I don't see anything about retained salary, which will continue to be the single biggest obstacle in the way of trading him. 10.5m for a goaltender in today's cap environment is just way too much. The cap hit of the last three Stanley Cup winning goaltenders COMBINED was...ironically...$10,500,000! Teams don't build around goalies anymore, they build around superstars and supporting role/depth players. In the goaltending department, they compromise performance with affordability..think bang for the buck.

You also need to consider, that the theoretical team trading for Price would be a contender who needs a goalie...where is a contending team getting 10.5m in free cap space for the next 7 seasons? Calgary sure doesn't have it!

The reality is that if a trade is to be made including Price, Montreal will need to eat money as well as take a perceived "loss" when we talk about Price's value as a player..simply because of his contract. So we can forget this idea of "you can get more" or "he's the best goalie", because that value isn't going to show up in any real life trade for him. They should certainly get some quality in return, but not the same quality as they would if Price's quality as a player were the only variable.

And all of this is with the given assumption that he doesn't get hurt yet again. Oh...and that he waives his full no movement clause to go to Calgary...

I enjoy watching him as a fan of the game, and he is truly a phenomenal goalie, but that's where it ends. I don't see Montreal ever moving this guy.


buddy its called ARMCHAIR GM.F***ing relax
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1 oct. 2019 à 11 h 0
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Quoting: skriko
buddy its called ARMCHAIR GM.F***ing relax


I'm sorry..do I seem excited? lol

I thought you posted this to strike up a conversation and get opinions. I didn't realize that you were looking for 3 word responses..or "cool cool " my bad! Just happy about the upcoming season and trying to talk hockey. Sorry if that ruffled you to the point of cursing. wink
1 oct. 2019 à 11 h 6
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Quoting: SuprDave45
Based on?

Because in this trade offer I don't see anything about retained salary, which will continue to be the single biggest obstacle in the way of trading him. 10.5m for a goaltender in today's cap environment is just way too much. The cap hit of the last three Stanley Cup winning goaltenders COMBINED was...ironically...$10,500,000! Teams don't build around goalies anymore, they build around superstars and supporting role/depth players. In the goaltending department, they compromise performance with affordability..think bang for the buck.

You also need to consider, that the theoretical team trading for Price would be a contender who needs a goalie...where is a contending team getting 10.5m in free cap space for the next 7 seasons? Calgary sure doesn't have it!

The reality is that if a trade is to be made including Price, Montreal will need to eat money as well as take a perceived "loss" when we talk about Price's value as a player..simply because of his contract. So we can forget this idea of "you can get more" or "he's the best goalie", because that value isn't going to show up in any real life trade for him. They should certainly get some quality in return, but not the same quality as they would if Price's quality as a player were the only variable.

And all of this is with the given assumption that he doesn't get hurt yet again. Oh...and that he waives his full no movement clause to go to Calgary...

I enjoy watching him as a fan of the game, and he is truly a phenomenal goalie, but that's where it ends. I don't see Montreal ever moving this guy.


I don't see MTL trade Price because why would they want to do that? Your starting goalie is most likely your player with the most TOI in the year... Price had 3880 Min. last year... Binnington had 1876min... Carey Price is without a doubt the Superstar of the Montreal Canadiens so why is this bad BECAUSE he's a goalie?
1 oct. 2019 à 11 h 19
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Quoting: mnet
I don't see MTL trade Price because why would they want to do that? Your starting goalie is most likely your player with the most TOI in the year... Price had 3880 Min. last year... Binnington had 1876min... Carey Price is without a doubt the Superstar of the Montreal Canadiens so why is this bad BECAUSE he's a goalie?


I am not sure I understand your question. I didn't say Price being the superstar of his team and being a goalie was bad, I said that the winning team blueprint is not having your goalie be the highest paid player on the team. I used Binnington, Holtby and Murray as examples because their teams won the championship without the goalie being the highest paid player. These are just the facts of the matter..I don't have anything against the guy lol.

Look, the Rangers' highest paid player for years has been Henrik Lundqvist..for all his greatness through his prime, even he couldn't win the cup on his own (though he almost did in 2014).

I didn't make the case for trading him, the original poster did. I would agree with you honestly (although for slightly different reasons).
1 oct. 2019 à 11 h 20
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Quoting: SuprDave45
I'm sorry..do I seem excited? lol

I thought you posted this to strike up a conversation and get opinions. I didn't realize that you were looking for 3 word responses..or "cool cool " my bad! Just happy about the upcoming season and trying to talk hockey. Sorry if that ruffled you to the point of cursing. wink


yah i get it .just had my coffee now,sorry dude.stooked as well
1 oct. 2019 à 11 h 31
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I am not sure I understand your question. I didn't say Price being the superstar of his team and being a goalie was bad, I said that the winning team blueprint is not having your goalie be the highest paid player on the team. I used Binnington, Holtby and Murray as examples because their teams won the championship without the goalie being the highest paid player. These are just the facts of the matter..I don't have anything against the guy lol.

Look, the Rangers' highest paid player for years has been Henrik Lundqvist..for all his greatness through his prime, even he couldn't win the cup on his own (though he almost did in 2014).

I didn't make the case for trading him, the original poster did. I would agree with you honestly (although for slightly different reasons).


I'll take this idea even further. I can make the case that you have to go back 16 years to find a Stanley Cup winning team where the goalie was the clear cut superstar/highest paid player on the team:

2003 New Jersey Devils, Martin Brodeur made $4,745,026 (Elias made $4,722,249). Honorable mention to Jonathan Quick.
 
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