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Overpay to Sign Both

Créé par: HawaiianPig
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 6 juin 2019
Publié: 6 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
It can be done, even if you overpay
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
52 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
711 000 000 $
710 000 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
Shaw is the only player who earns 3+ that other teams will want. He has to go with at least one other contract. Literally a bag of pucks in return is worth it. Basically, Shaw for EK and Duchene.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 000 000 $82 038 253 $0 $3 525 000 $961 747 $

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AG, AD
UFA - 2
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 7
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 2
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 8
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
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748 333 $748 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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800 000 $800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
DD
UFA - 1

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6 juin 2019 à 10 h 22
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Karlsson has no ankle left and is already on the decline health wise, I hope he goes elsewhere personally!
Shaw can get you a lot more and with the cap room they have left for NOT signing Karlsson, they can make a better move.
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6 juin 2019 à 10 h 28
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Karlsson's health problems are exaggerated.

Last 3 years:
Karlsson: 201 regular season games and 38 playoff games. Missed 45 games.
Weber: 160 regular season games and 6 playoff games. Missed 84 games.

If it really becomes an issue, we can abuse LTIR like Toronto does.

Either way, you simply do not pass up signing literally elite talent. Like top 5 defenceman in the league talent. You pay whatever it takes.
6 juin 2019 à 10 h 35
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Quoting: HawaiianPig
Karlsson's health problems are exaggerated.

Last 3 years:
Karlsson: 201 regular season games and 38 playoff games. Missed 45 games.
Weber: 160 regular season games and 6 playoff games. Missed 84 games.

If it really becomes an issue, we can abuse LTIR like Toronto does.

Either way, you simply do not pass up signing literally elite talent. Like top 5 defenceman in the league talent. You pay whatever it takes.


Weber gets <$8M, not $11M.
6 juin 2019 à 10 h 37
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I used $11M to show that you can overpay, not that you should actually sign him for that.
6 juin 2019 à 12 h 2
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Quoting: HabsRafiki
Weber gets <$8M, not $11M.


Weber sign 8M 8years ago... today He would cost over than 10+ M AAV... and don't forget Weber was paid 14M per year to start with... yes 14M!
So Take Karlsson29y.o. with a 7year contract like this= 10,85M AAV
2019= 14M
2020= 14M
2021= 14M
2022= 10M
2023= 10M
2024= 7M
2025= 7M
6 juin 2019 à 12 h 4
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Weber sign 8M 8years ago... today He would cost over than 10+ M AAV... and don't forget Weber was paid 14M per year to start with... yes 14M!
So Take Karlsson29y.o. with a 7year contract like this= 10,85M AAV
2019= 14M
2020= 14M
2021= 14M
2022= 10M
2023= 10M
2024= 7M
2025= 7M


Add this... In 2 years... you can trade Weber to all bottom team that will need is contract to reach the floor... because physically he will cost 1M/y with a AVV at 8M.
6 juin 2019 à 12 h 19
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Add this... In 2 years... you can trade Weber to all bottom team that will need is contract to reach the floor... because physically he will cost 1M/y with a AVV at 8M.


The annual cash outlay doesn't matter. If Weber were being paid $10M or more, the Habs would not have traded Subban for him. They'd still have traded Subban but likely for a different kind of take.

There's a number at which trading away Petry and taking EK makes sense. I am not sure that number is $10M or more.
6 juin 2019 à 13 h 10
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The annual cash outlay doesn't matter. If Weber were being paid $10M or more, the Habs would not have traded Subban for him. They'd still have traded Subban but likely for a different kind of take.

There's a number at which trading away Petry and taking EK makes sense. I am not sure that number is $10M or more.


It does matter... before you could sign a guy for 14 years...and the last 4 years at 1M/y to reduce the AAV... now you can't.
But the player will still want is pay... like Price who is making 15M this year... it does added value
12 juin 2019 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: HawaiianPig
Karlsson's health problems are exaggerated.

Last 3 years:
Karlsson: 201 regular season games and 38 playoff games. Missed 45 games.
Weber: 160 regular season games and 6 playoff games. Missed 84 games.

If it really becomes an issue, we can abuse LTIR like Toronto does.

Either way, you simply do not pass up signing literally elite talent. Like top 5 defenceman in the league talent. You pay whatever it takes.


I agree with you there so sign Duchene or Panarin and pay for offensive talent!
 
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