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Canes fans - realistic expectations of Aho TT ext

Créé par: Caniac555

Équipe: 2019-20 Hurricanes de la Caroline

Date de création initiale: 9 janv. 2019

Publié: 9 janv. 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Using this to communicate realistic expectations...see a lot of unrealistic ideas on here.

Aho:

If Aho signs for 8 years...that deal will need to be done at a realistic Cap Hit % based on other players coming out of an ELC and a similar points per game and numbers. Aho is projected to finish his ELC around 0.85 points per game. Players at this level signing long term deals (7-8 years) sign for 11-12% of cap hit (Franchise player levels). This puts Aho at 8 for 9.5M AAV (11.5% of projected cap hit). Highly unlikely, but if a shorter term deal (5-6 years) were done, that would put that figure around 10% cap hit, or around 8.3M AAV.

Teuvo:

Teuvo is coming off a bridge deal, is still 24 and RFA, averaging around 0.57 points per game. His deal likely to be in the 5-6 year range at around 5.7 or 5.8 M AAV.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Aho, Sebastian		8	9 500 000 $
Teräväinen, Teuvo		5	5 800 000 $

Rachats de contrats

Alexander Semin: 2 333 333 $

Enfoui

Scott Darling: 3 075 000 $ (4 150 000 $)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
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FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
13	83 000 000 $	57 130 000 $	0 $	2 670 000 $	25 870 000 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Teräväinen, Teuvo 5 800 000 $5 800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 5	Aho, Sebastian 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C UFA - 5	Svechnikov, Andrei 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 650 000 $$3M) AG, AD UFA - 2
	Staal, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 4
Foegele, Warren 746 667 $746 667 $ (20 000 $$20K) AG, AD UFA - 1	Rask, Victor 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ C UFA - 3
	Wallmark, Lucas 675 000 $675 000 $ C UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Slavin, Jaccob 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Hamilton, Dougie 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ DD UFA - 2
De Haan, Calvin 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Faulk, Justin 4 150 000 $4 150 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 1
	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD UFA - 5
	van Riemsdyk, Trevor 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ DD UFA - 1

9 janv. 2019 à 10 h 14

TheCoontniac

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If we could get Aho signed for Under 8 that would be great.

9 janv. 2019 à 10 h 16

Caniac555

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Won’t happen if the deal is anything more than 2-3 year bridge. Unlikely that is the way either side wants.

Quoting: jslongo

If we could get Aho signed for Under 8 that would be great.

9 janv. 2019 à 10 h 37

NucksFanForLife

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Quoting: Caniac555

Won’t happen if the deal is anything more than 2-3 year bridge. Unlikely that is the way either side wants.

Marner is on pace to score 30+ points more than Aho and wants the same money. Aho won't get 9.5 million. 8.5 looks more realistic to me.

9 janv. 2019 à 11 h 12

Caniac555

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Anything is possible, including Aho at 9.5 and Marner asking for more. The historical numbers support my figures at the terms provided.

Quoting: NucksFanForLife

Marner is on pace to score 30+ points more than Aho and wants the same money. Aho won't get 9.5 million. 8.5 looks more realistic to me.

9 janv. 2019 à 11 h 59

NucksFanForLife

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Quoting: Caniac555

Anything is possible, including Aho at 9.5 and Marner asking for more. The historical numbers support my figures at the terms provided.

They do, but we've recently seen a trend where players are taking less than what they could be making. Scheifele at .86 PPG took 8.4% of the cap ceiling. Pastrnak at .93 PPG took 8.9% of the cap. Gaudreau at .99 PPG took 9.2% of the cap. Draisaitl at .94 PPG took 11.3% of the cap. Eichel at .96 PPG took 12.6% of the cap. Barkov at .89 PPG took 8.1% of the cap. Those are in the final ELC year. Those are the closest comparisons and the ones that I assume you used. 9.5 is the expected average, but it could be anywhere from Gaudreau (8 million adj) to Eichel (11.7 adj). I doubt he'll demand Eichel money, but I could be wrong. I tend to lean towards a 8.5-9 million deal which is just under what Kucherov got. (Albeit on a 24-26 contract)

9 janv. 2019 à 12 h 7

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Fair enough- the point is people can’t expect 8 years at 7M AAV which is what I’ve seen in some cases. Maxing out the years does funny things to the contracts. My point was trying to demonstrate there is a way to look at a players market and expecting less than market value (especially in a place like Carolina) is not very likely.

Quoting: NucksFanForLife

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9 janv. 2019 à 12 h 17

NucksFanForLife

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Quoting: Caniac555

Yeah and I've seen as low 7-7.5 over 8 years. Which is crazy. Carolina isn't in a cap crunch and Aho isn't a 5'9" LW. He's a 1C. Which is why I find it interesting that Leafs fans think Matthews will take 10.5-11.5 million. He's worth 13.5 million and he's not taking more than a 1 million discount. Marner should get 11-12 million but fans think he'll take 8.5-9.5. It's not happening. Somehow fans think players will take huge discounts to help out the cap situation.

9 janv. 2019 à 12 h 40

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Leafs are in trouble without Tavares And Nylander taking team friendly deals. Why would The other guys do it? It’s a rash that spreads either positively or negatively.

Quoting: NucksFanForLife

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