Caps need to get a lot more back in that Isles trade. And rather than signing Green, just re-sign Carlson.

i disagree w nyi trade..........thet dump orpik paired w orpik bc is an average to above average bottom 6 player and caps move up to top 15 in a deep draft

also assume jc will want 8x8 term will be terrible in a few years also his numbers will likely go down without ovi

You are giving up a starting-quality goalie, 3rd line forward, 3rd pair D, and prospect for a 5th and moving up in the draft. Grubi alone would be worth that.

Honest question: why dump Orpik if you're not going to use the cap space? At this point, none of the 4 defensive prospects you have up there are better than Orpik.

my question to you is how do you know they aren't better than orpik if you haven't seen the play nhl minutes?

caps fans drive me crazy with this grub thing

he is a nil backup goalie that has starter potential

to dump orpiks contract it would cost grub.......maybe bc and a prospect

main point being grub isn't holtby.......... he's 27-28 he's not young his value isn't the same as most examples you'll give me bc he's older and has never been more than a back in the nil

We've seen Bowey and Djoos in the NHL, and they weren't as good as Orpik. Siegenthaler and Lewington have not been as good as Djoos and Bowey in the AHL, so simple logic would tell you they aren't as good as Orpik at this point.



Grubi started for the last quarter of the season - he has shown that he has starter ability. And he is 26 (27 in November) - same age as Schneider when he was traded to the Devils. Giving up anything more than a low-round pick or mid-level prospect to get Orpik's contract off the books is an idiotic idea, let alone Grubi.

Grubi is also slightly younger than Raanta and Talbot were at the time they were traded, and with similar stats. He has the 4th best save % of any NHL goalie with 20+ GP over the last 4 seasons. The Caps can get a better haul than what you're proposing.

And you never answered my question - why get rid of Orpik if you're not going to use the cap space?

his reg season numbers aren't good and the younger players should be playing not not a 40 y/o vet......

His regular season numbers are fine. He doesn't produce offense, but his defense is solid. He is the Caps' best PKer. And he's 37, not 40. Siegenthaler and Lewington should be playing - in Hershey. They've done nothing to show that they're ready for the NHL.

agree to disagree on this.....-9 isn't fine on a team that finishes top the metro.....just saying

That was from being paired with Bowey, who wasn't ready. After the deadline, he was even.

or bc orpik is slow and needs a dojo/schmidt to compensate.....hes great in the corners but his positioning and speed are terrible ...............so justify a 5.5 million $ 3rd pairing guy who can block shot and hit but is useless offensively and 1 on 1 in open ice

I'd be fine with trading Orpik, as long as there's a viable replacement. Bowey, Lewington, and Siegenthaler are not that yet.