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Draft Day Shenanigans Part Deux!!

Créé par: mmobley
Équipe: 2018-19 Coyotes de l'Arizona
Date de création initiale: 7 mai 2018
Publié: 7 mai 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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This would be one crazy day! The NYI trade should be the first trade to happen, there was an error organizing the order.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2800 000 $
33 250 000 $
2850 000 $
31 250 000 $
54 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1750 000 $
22 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
ARI
    2018 NYR 1st round pick (28th overall)
    2018 NYR 1st round pick (29th overall)
    NYR
      2018 ARI 1st round pick (12th overall)
      2.
      TBL
      1. Merkley, Nick
      Détails additionnels:
      2018 ARI 1st round pick (28th overall)

      Trade helps provides cap relief for TBL to make room for signing Kucherov, Vasilevsky and others to long term deals. TBL doesn't have a 1st round pick in 2018 draft, so trade could gain some interest from them. Also getting former 1st round prospect in return.
      3.
      ARI
        Rights to RFA, Jacob Trouba
        WPG
          2018 ARI 1st round pick (29th overall)

          Trade makes sense for Winnipeg, as they are rich on the back end and need to have room to sign Laine, Hellebuyck and Connor to long term deals. Out of all of these players, Trouba would be the odd man out and most likely the player WPG would trade. WPG also doesn't have a 1st round pick in the 2018 draft, so this pick brings significant value to the trade.
          4.
          ARI
          1. Hossa, Marián
          Détails additionnels:
          2018 CHI 1st round pick (31st overall)
          5.
          ARI
          1. Galchenyuk, Alex
          Détails additionnels:
          2018 MTL 2nd round pick (38th overall)
          MTL
          1. Pánik, Richard
          2. Wood, Kyle
          Détails additionnels:
          2018 ARI 1st round pick (31st overall)

          Gives Galchenyuk a new start somewhere (something both parties have been looking for). Also gives MTL a D prospect, a utility F, Panik, that has some scoring touch and an additional 1st round pick to help their rebuild.
          6.
          ARI
          1. Quenneville, David
          Détails additionnels:
          2018 NYI 1st round pick (11th overall)
          2018 NYI 1st round pick (12th overall)
          NYI
            2018 1st round pick (5th overall)
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            TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
            2378 000 000 $67 121 943 $0 $4 692 500 $10 878 057 $
            Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
            3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
            C, AD
            UFA - 2
            5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
            AD, C, AG
            NTC
            UFA - 6
            885 833 $885 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
            AG, AD
            UFA - 2
            863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance2 475 000 $$2M)
            C
            UFA - 2
            4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
            AG, C, AD
            UFA - 2
            863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
            AD, AG
            UFA - 1
            839 167 $839 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
            C
            UFA - 1
            6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
            C, AD
            UFA - 3
            821 666 $821 666 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
            AD, AG
            UFA - 2
            2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
            C
            UFA - 2
            2 775 000 $2 775 000 $
            C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 1
            675 000 $675 000 $
            AD, AG
            UFA - 1
            1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
            AG, C
            UFA - 1
            850 000 $850 000 $
            C
            UFA - 1
            Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
            5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
            DG
            UFA - 1
            3 937 500 $3 937 500 $
            DD
            M-NTC
            UFA - 3
            4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
            G
            UFA - 3
            5 475 000 $5 475 000 $
            DG/DD
            NMC
            UFA - 3
            4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
            DD
            UFA - 1
            1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
            G
            UFA - 2
            925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
            DG/DD
            UFA - 1
            4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
            DG/DD
            M-NTC, NMC
            UFA - 1
            1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
            DG
            UFA - 1
            Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
            5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
            C
            M-NTC
            UFA - 1
            5 275 000 $5 275 000 $
            AD
            NMC
            UFA - 3

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            7 mai 2018 à 14 h 15
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            there is no benefit to the Hawks trading Hossa if he stays on LTIR. if hossa even remotely thinks he might return playing, why does he waive his nmc.
            jets can afford trouba for at least two years. if traded he would get a lot better than a late round pick.
            7 mai 2018 à 14 h 38
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            Myers is worth the 28th overall! If you wanted Trouba the 28th isn’t even close. Opening the negotiations by offering that 5th OA would simply keep Chevy from hanging up the phone. Considering a 5th is 1-2 years away from being a roster player, you would have to add. A top pair RHD garners a lot more than what you offered
            7 mai 2018 à 15 h 9
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            Galchenyuk isn't getting traded for spare parts. He might not be the #1 center according to Bergevin, but you don't give away your most skilled forward just because he doesn't play the position you thought he would (and all stats confirm he should be a center, but that's a different debate).
            7 mai 2018 à 15 h 41
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            Almost everyone who has signed in tamp recently has taken team-friendly deals...INCLUDING KRUCHEROV...

            Also Trouba is the only realistic deal I see here.
            7 mai 2018 à 18 h 38
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            Quoting: clark
            there is no benefit to the Hawks trading Hossa if he stays on LTIR. if hossa even remotely thinks he might return playing, why does he waive his nmc.
            jets can afford trouba for at least two years. if traded he would get a lot better than a late round pick.


            Thanks for the post. Yeah, I'll give you that. Although it looks like his career is over, trading him for what I have here is a reach. Wishful thinking haha. ARI would have to negotiate to take on one of the big contract, maybe 50% of Seabrook's contract. I think CHI would make the deal for that and maybe a B/C prospect. Cap room is probably the most valuable focus for CHI at this time and if they are able to get rid of a chunk of a contact like Seabrook's and the roster space, I think they would make the deal.
            7 mai 2018 à 18 h 55
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            Quoting: jgimp69
            Myers is worth the 28th overall! If you wanted Trouba the 28th isn’t even close. Opening the negotiations by offering that 5th OA would simply keep Chevy from hanging up the phone. Considering a 5th is 1-2 years away from being a roster player, you would have to add. A top pair RHD garners a lot more than what you offered


            Thanks for the post. From a analytics standpoint and comparing both players' ice times and situational use, Myers has actually had more valuable than Trouba this year for WPG. Some of the those numbers may be tainted because of the amount of games he missed this season, however Myers is currently slotted on the second unit PP, Trouba does not play PP minutes. There is not denying and I agree with you that Trouba has a highers ceiling and is still developing, so from that standpoint, he is of greater long term value for the Jets. But looking at the other core players that I mentioned in my post, who WPG is going to have to sign, I still see Trouba as the odd man out. WPG will become a salary cap team in 2-3 years because of how well they have drafted and how strong the team has played-it's a good problem to have. You may be right and ARI might have to throw in one of their D prospects into the mix to get the deal done. But if WPG can get a 1st round pick and decent D prospects, in addition to getting to the conference finals (and they way win the whole thing if they're able to do that), they are getting good value for trading Trouba.
            7 mai 2018 à 19 h 3
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            Quoting: RobbStark03
            Galchenyuk isn't getting traded for spare parts. He might not be the #1 center according to Bergevin, but you don't give away your most skilled forward just because he doesn't play the position you thought he would (and all stats confirm he should be a center, but that's a different debate).


            Thanks for the post. I agree with you that Galchenyuk was drafted as a C and should be used as one. From the past few seasons, there isn't a lot of evidence supporting that MTL will use him in that position. Even with coaching change, he was still slotted as a W for most of the season. Galchenyuk was also up and down the line-up throughout the first half of the season. From looking at the way MTL has used him, it seems that they don't know what he is or where he fits on their team. That's where I drew my argument that a fresh start might be needed for both parties.

            Now you make a good point that ARI may need to throw another or a different player in the mix to solidify the trade. If ARI gave up a B F prospect, that might finish the deal. Maybe they would be willing to trades Strome. That could be a very good possibility.
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            7 mai 2018 à 19 h 12
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            Quoting: timmeejr
            Almost everyone who has signed in tamp recently has taken team-friendly deals...INCLUDING KRUCHEROV...

            Also Trouba is the only realistic deal I see here.


            Thanks for the post. You're right that a good amount of TBL's players have signed team-friendly deals. However, Kucherov's deal is not necessarily one of them. He is still on his second contact that he signed before broke out and he was leading the league in scoring. They will need space to re-sign him when his current contract is up after the 18-19 season. He will be make at very least the same as Stamkos, probably a bit more. Maybe around 9-9.5 million (similar to Crosby and Malkin's contract situations) . Trading Johnson, along with some of the older D's contracts expiring, will clear up a good amount of space that will allow TBL to sign Kucherov, Point and Vasilevsky. All are younger and core pieces for TBL moving forward.
            7 mai 2018 à 20 h 42
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            Quoting: mmobley
            Thanks for the post. Yeah, I'll give you that. Although it looks like his career is over, trading him for what I have here is a reach. Wishful thinking haha. ARI would have to negotiate to take on one of the big contract, maybe 50% of Seabrook's contract. I think CHI would make the deal for that and maybe a B/C prospect. Cap room is probably the most valuable focus for CHI at this time and if they are able to get rid of a chunk of a contact like Seabrook's and the roster space, I think they would make the deal.


            unfortunately players with a taste of winning (seabrook) aren't waiving their nth/nmc to last place teams in all likelihood. arizona has has taken on contracts that doesn't cost them any money like ltir players. really difficult for hawks or any team to trade overpaid players. near cap teams can't afford them. near floor teams can find other ways to spend or not spend real money.
            7 mai 2018 à 22 h 23
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            Quoting: clark
            unfortunately players with a taste of winning (seabrook) aren't waiving their nth/nmc to last place teams in all likelihood. arizona has has taken on contracts that doesn't cost them any money like ltir players. really difficult for hawks or any team to trade overpaid players. near cap teams can't afford them. near floor teams can find other ways to spend or not spend real money.


            That's a good point. That might throw a hick-up into things and would be a difficult hurdle to overcome. But CHI did get Hjalmarsson to waive his NMC...so having former Hawks (and no Krueger) on ARI would have to be part of the sell if they would try to convince Seabrook or whoever it might be that they are trying to trade. Maybe Anisimov would be a better fit. He would still be a tough sell because he gets to play with Kane on a regular basis, but ARI has some talented young F's like Keller so that might help convince him.
             
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