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Simmons to Toronto

Créé par: Roscoe
Équipe: 2017-18 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 18 janv. 2018
Publié: 18 janv. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2275 000 000 $61 675 477 $1 062 500 $5 082 500 $13 324 523 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 2
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
C
UFA - 5
4 137 500 $4 137 500 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 5
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AD, AG
UFA - 2
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
C, AD
UFA - 3
8 250 000 $8 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
5 850 000 $5 850 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
UFA - 2
962 500 $962 500 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
680 000 $680 000 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AG
UFA - 1
677 500 $677 500 $ (Bonis de performance25 000 $$25K)
AG
UFA - 1
2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 357 143 $4 357 143 $
DG
UFA - 1
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 2
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 6
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
975 000 $975 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3

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18 janv. 2018 à 22 h 4
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boy that first trade is really lopsided, no way you get both marner and kapanen for simmonds and a depth player. You won't even get just marner for that.
18 janv. 2018 à 22 h 25
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1st trade is lopsided as stated above
2nd trade is stupid lopsided - a salary dump and a low tier prospect for a potential top 2 Dman
3rd trade - flyers are moving to many players for too little in return plus the salaries may match up pretty close but the lengths of the contracts don’t so CBJ get off the hook for Dubinsky
18 janv. 2018 à 22 h 30
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Lol no
19 janv. 2018 à 1 h 32
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2nd trade is stupid lopsided - a salary dump and a low tier prospect for a potential top 2 Dman


...What? How in the world is Sanheim a low tier prospect? He's 21 years old, and is a projected top-2 dman as well?
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19 janv. 2018 à 15 h 42
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Quoting: JPM
1st trade is lopsided as stated above
2nd trade is stupid lopsided - a salary dump and a low tier prospect for a potential top 2 Dman
3rd trade - flyers are moving to many players for too little in return plus the salaries may match up pretty close but the lengths of the contracts don’t so CBJ get off the hook for Dubinsky


Travis Sanheim is absolutely not a low tier prospect. If our idiot coach knew how to use him he would easily be one of our top 4 d-men.
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20 janv. 2018 à 9 h 41
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I may have misspoke to say Sanheim is a low tier prospect but my point is Chychurn is already a regular NHLer who was drafted in the top ten and compared to Ekblad saying he could play right out of juniors. By contrast Sanheim has been riding the pine after playing a few seasons in the AHL; and while I agree Hak is an idiot, other NHL teams will see a player who even if the coach didn’t like him wasn’t good enough to beat out MacDonald and Manning for a bottom line spot. Going forward I would say Sanheim has potential to be a top 4 Dman just by what he’s done. He’s not as physical as Hagg and his work in the zone/ defensively has been spotty at times. Chychurn averages over 20 mins of Time on the Ice already. It’s like saying you would trade Provy for Sanheim. And even if your saying the ceiling on Chychurn is equal to the ceiling on Sanheim (which I doubt), Chychurn is already more developed. The other element of the trade is a pure salary dump of Lehtera. This means that your saying Sanheim is worth Chychurn and enough to pay a guy who should be scratched every game, even if we’re paying him 4.7 mil. It won’t work for Arizona.
20 janv. 2018 à 10 h 46
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Quoting: JPM
I may have misspoke to say Sanheim is a low tier prospect but my point is Chychurn is already a regular NHLer who was drafted in the top ten and compared to Ekblad saying he could play right out of juniors. By contrast Sanheim has been riding the pine after playing a few seasons in the AHL; and while I agree Hak is an idiot, other NHL teams will see a player who even if the coach didn’t like him wasn’t good enough to beat out MacDonald and Manning for a bottom line spot. Going forward I would say Sanheim has potential to be a top 4 Dman just by what he’s done. He’s not as physical as Hagg and his work in the zone/ defensively has been spotty at times. Chychurn averages over 20 mins of Time on the Ice already. It’s like saying you would trade Provy for Sanheim. And even if your saying the ceiling on Chychurn is equal to the ceiling on Sanheim (which I doubt), Chychurn is already more developed. The other element of the trade is a pure salary dump of Lehtera. This means that your saying Sanheim is worth Chychurn and enough to pay a guy who should be scratched every game, even if we’re paying him 4.7 mil. It won’t work for Arizona.


Ah, I see your point. Makes sense.
22 janv. 2018 à 22 h 45
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Quoting: JPM
I may have misspoke to say Sanheim is a low tier prospect but my point is Chychurn is already a regular NHLer who was drafted in the top ten and compared to Ekblad saying he could play right out of juniors. By contrast Sanheim has been riding the pine after playing a few seasons in the AHL; and while I agree Hak is an idiot, other NHL teams will see a player who even if the coach didn’t like him wasn’t good enough to beat out MacDonald and Manning for a bottom line spot. Going forward I would say Sanheim has potential to be a top 4 Dman just by what he’s done. He’s not as physical as Hagg and his work in the zone/ defensively has been spotty at times. Chychurn averages over 20 mins of Time on the Ice already. It’s like saying you would trade Provy for Sanheim. And even if your saying the ceiling on Chychurn is equal to the ceiling on Sanheim (which I doubt), Chychurn is already more developed. The other element of the trade is a pure salary dump of Lehtera. This means that your saying Sanheim is worth Chychurn and enough to pay a guy who should be scratched every game, even if we’re paying him 4.7 mil. It won’t work for Arizona.


Sanheim was absolutely good enough to beat out MacDonald and Manning. We just have a really stupid coach who doesn't see it. He should be in our top 4 playing with Gudas. Also Sanheim only played one season in the AHL. Chychrun was drafted 16th after he fell for some reason not top 10.
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3 févr. 2018 à 13 h 35
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Sanheim was absolutely good enough to beat out MacDonald and Manning. We just have a really stupid coach who doesn't see it. He should be in our top 4 playing with Gudas. Also Sanheim only played one season in the AHL. Chychrun was drafted 16th after he fell for some reason not top 10.


I agree that Sanheim played better than Mac and definitely Manning, but not better enough to make our idiot of a coach keep him. But my original point is if I have a Dman like Chychurn who is a strong player and at the very least a Top 4 Dman, playing 20+ NHL minutes every night, why am I trading for Sanheim who may be that good eventually, has shown to be weaker in his own end, and has not been able to objectively beat out two older 3rd pair Dmen. On top of this I’m going to take on the cap hit of Lethera, who doesn’t do anything in terms of upgrading my team. Also you have to think that ARI is not in urgent need of cap right now they are above the floor and that’s good enough for them this season, next season things change. But if u were them I would go after Hossa and Zetterberg especially Zetterberg’s contract.
 
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