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Forum: Armchair-GM17 avr à 17 h 27

Sujet: Pietrangelo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>That's where his is from; his family lives there. Maybe he wants his parents to help him out with his children.

St.Louis seems to be spending all their money. I don't see any money left for Pietrangelo.</div></div>

Well his wife is from St. Louis and has family here already so...

Forum: Armchair-GM17 avr à 14 h 27

Sujet: Haha AP27

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ForsbergForVezina</b></div><div>I don't know who you cheer for, but the Hawks-Blues games have been fairly competitive this season. Hawks come out on the wrong side more often than not, but they've been exciting to watch.</div></div>

I was actually at the last game, it was exciting as far as the score went. The passion behind the feud has been lost, ever since chicago has been on the downslide and the blues have been competitive, it just hasn't been the same.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 21 h 24

Sujet: Pietrangelo and Hoffman

If Petro left, I always thought he'd go for the Ducks, but I could see Dallas working. Only thing I'm skeptical of is Elliott only taking 1m. Come on man.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 21 h 04

Sujet: test for pietrangelo

Test failed, spell his name right.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 20 h 07

Sujet: What is all this pietrangelo talk about

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MadLin27</b></div><div>Moving Allen is no problem, but you'd have to move Bozak or Steen as well. Not "easy"</div></div>

Well I can assure you Steen isn't going anywhere. However, Bozak will be easier to move than people seem to believe. There's several teams he can go to and instantly be their 2C. He's still producing at his age, wins a ton of faceoffs and plays solid PK minutes.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 20 h 04

Sujet: It got tougher but not impossible

Yeah dude I like it. I think it can work 100%.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 58

Sujet: It got tougher but not impossible

Vince Dunn?

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 57

Sujet: What is all this pietrangelo talk about

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>At the trade deadline maybe but not during the summer if you arnt eating part of that 5 mil cap hit. It would cost more than a mid round pick. I also wouldn't say he'd be willing to help out. St Louis are defending cup champs and were a real threat to repeat. Noones going to make it easy on them to move them out to another team.</div></div>

There would be no reason to move them at the deadline. They would have to be summer deals, when they'd be more appealing to teams. Teams desperate for talent are always listening to deals, especially when they can receive additional compensation in draft picks. 100% all day that is happening.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 55

Sujet: Petro Canada

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Tell me who else is going to be able to afford him? If he wants to go to a contender, There's zero contenders that can afford to pay him what he'll command. If he wants to go to a legitimate contender. Then he's going to have to take a lot less money. If he wants to get paid big money then those are the teams that can do it.</div></div>

That's exactly what I've been saying. The only way Petro takes max money is to go to a noncontender. A simple cash grab. If he wants to play for a contender, he's not going to get 9mil a year. He's going to have to take a price cut, and if he doesn't take a discount to stay in StL then your guess is that he already has his mind made up. I can't see any teams spending major money right now, but with Petro knowing he will have to take a price cut, it'll be his choice if he wants to stay in StL.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 47

Sujet: Petro Canada

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Detroit, Ottawa, New Jersey Buffalo teams that have tons of cap space. And aren't afraid to spend it.</div></div>

Those teams would just have to be incredibly lucky that a player in his prime would want to go to non-contenders during rebuilds.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 46

Sujet: What is all this pietrangelo talk about

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>With Bozak's salary for his production hes going to cost you to move out and with a NTC to deal with thats not going to be an easy trade to get done. Allen will get about half the space you'd need.</div></div>

I don't think a 34-35 yr old would be too offended to help a club move his contract to potentially extend his playing career. I think there would be more suitors for Bozak's services than believed, especially if a mid round pick is attached.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 42

Sujet: Petro Canada

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Pietrangelo isn't signing that cheaply, Probably looking at closer to $10M to $10.5M over 7 seasons.</div></div>

Who is spending that money in this uncertain stage of the NHL?

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 39

Sujet: What is all this pietrangelo talk about

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MadLin27</b></div><div>You can't just look at Jbo for Scandella... You have to consider their whole cap situation.... Faulk, Schenn, Blais, and Dunn all getting raises. So the money given to Scandella was needed for Petro, yes.</div></div>

Again you're only calculating the additions and raises, not the potential for subtraction via trade market. Allen was showcased all season, he's not staying with the team.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 31

Sujet: What is all this pietrangelo talk about

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>The worry is how they will afford his cap hit. The above roster is this season so its without Scandella and Faulks raises and without Vince Dunns new deal (he'll get a 3-4 million raise as well). There just isnt room to fit Pietrangelo even if he doesnt get a raise from his 6 mil.</div></div>

But that also isn't taking into consideration of trades to open cap space. Bozak/Allen are potential trade targets that would benefit other teams and it would certainly allow us to easily afford Petro and Dunn.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 22

Sujet: Helping St Louis Keep Pietrangelo

losing Barbie would be painful but, I'm not hating this at all. I'd have a new respect for SJ

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 19

Sujet: Haha AP27

I mean, Hull went to Detroit.....

Maybe this would bring back the rivalry and make the games fun again.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 17

Sujet: Petro

If Petro walks, I think Blues fans would be 100% fine with his choice to cash in. We got a cup, he did his job for us. He'll be a legend in the city. Hell the fans applaud and welcome back players with open arms that left on alot worse conditions. There's a reason we have one of the best alumni affiliations and involvement in the community. Alot of players relocate to St.L because of the fanbase.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 13

Sujet: Petro gone

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>I meant unloading allen alongside steen and bozak

Edit: finally saw it said allen and bozak, therefore I mean steen</div></div>

I gotcha, makes sense now.
While it would be admirable of Steen to retire or waive his NTC to help the team, I can't see him doing that. He's making great money, he's on a winning team, and is beloved by fans. Why waive that to potentially spend your twilight years on a losing club? no tie to the city and fans (unless it's Winnipeg). He's going to be able to retire and end his career the way he wants, which few players get to enjoy. Would I love to see his contract off the books? Yes. Yes a 100 times but I can't see it happening. But 100% agree on Bozak/Allen gone.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 09

Sujet: Its not happening guys

I'd stop chasing stars and try to build four lines instead of two. That would be a smart move in the right direction, ey toronto fans?

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 19 h 07

Sujet: What is all this pietrangelo talk about

The worrying is ridiculous. The Scandella signing ($3.75) is a mere wash with him taking over for Jbou's $3.25. It will have zero effect on if Petro resigns.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 18 h 12

Sujet: If theres a compliance buyout it has to be Faulk

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>STLBlues17</b></div><div>It’s not like he was good in Carolina either. Yes he’ll put up more points with powerplay time, but so will everyone.</div></div>

I agree with this 100%. A couple years ago, fans were ready to ship off Schenn but failed to realize his PP time was reduced from the prior season. Certain players flourish in the PP system, and I believe Faulk is one of them.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 18 h 06

Sujet: Help STL keep Pietro

I usually feel sorry for struggling teams and their devoted/loyal fan base, like Toronto. Then there's posts like this - and it reminds me how much I enjoy watching a dumpster fire.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 18 h 02

Sujet: If theres a compliance buyout it has to be Faulk

Faulk hasn't been impressive but I need more of sample size to determine if it's a failed experiment/bad contract. Ofcourse his style was going to change coming from another system, he's hardly on the PP unit with diminished minutes and you wonder why his offensive production is down.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 17 h 36

Sujet: Somebodys getting pietrangelo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Torontoleafs15</b></div><div>Pietrangelo is gonna want max term at around 10.5mil</div></div>

No one in their right mind is going to give any player that amount given the current status of the league. Looks like Petro won't be playing hockey next year then lol. There's too much uncertainty with the cap status to be throwing around bloated mega contracts.

Forum: Armchair-GM16 avr à 17 h 31

Sujet: Petro signing Screwed thank you armstrong

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Copenhagen</b></div><div>Do you think he will (Petro) sign a 1 year like 6 million Dollar deal for example, with a guarentee of signing a example 9 million 8 year deal when cap expands.</div></div>

This is what I've been talking about. No one knows what the NHL will be like when it returns to operation. Until there is a cap number released, it's all speculation. If the cap remains the same or lowers, Players may choose to take short term deals in hopes to cash in when the cap goes up.

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