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Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 févr. à 11 h 35
Sujet:
If Im the GM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffW</b></div><div>He very well may not be.
I didn't think proverov would be available either, and kevin hayes was basically given away for free with a multi-year retention.
And with the rumours that philly might be moving some big names out of town I figured that would be a good return for a potential young 2C</div></div>
I dont think frost is available, but I could be wrong,
Provorov and Hayes were dead weight who did not get along with Torts and both of them wanted out of Philly. They did not react well to Torts and were not key pieces here. We have been much better without them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 févr. à 19 h 23
Sujet:
DId the pens Miss out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>You are basically admitting Drysdale was a struggling player of low value who needed to be rehabbed.
You are really going to go on with the argument that, that has more value that a consistent 35-40 goal winger?
This is where it ends. We are talking value in and value out here. What they got in return for Cutter was low. We know, because he wouldn't sign aka no leverage in a trade.
The point was already made, by me that maybe they wanted defense instead of a winger. That's an acceptable logic. But telling me teams don't trade prospects for good players in the peak of their career is just a bs excuse.
As I've said, odds are PHL could have got a better younger prospect flipping jake, aka a 3 way trade where the prospect for Jake ended up being Cutter, and a young defenseman ends up going to PHL.
Mainly because PHL could have got more from Jake than a young prospect that was refusing to sign with them.
They settled on Drysdale, poor performing and injury history because they could do no better.</div></div>
1. Why would the flyers Trade Cutter to the pens or any metro team in general
2. Drysdale has value, more value than JG. Not saying that JG does not have value, but all of NHLGMS would not trade Drysdale for JG, or Cutter for JG. Blue Chip for Blue Chip thats it.
3. JG is not a blue chip guy, he is an accessory piece on an expiring contract who has played with Sid his whole life. He is a great goal scorer, but not worth Drysdale or Cutter on an expiring contract with NO guarentee that he will resign with that team. Not to mention he is 29-30 years old and gonna ask for more than 7 years
4. Say what you want about Drysdale being "damaged goods" he has played in the NHL before, I think anybody on that ANA could use a "change of scenery". Zegras is dealing with the same issues, do you think he is damaged goods? Does not mean he does not have value, rumors had it the Ducks added the second to outbid another team, as soon as Drysdale was in trade talks, the flyers knew they were gonna get him.
5. I do think cutter is a great player, but he also has NEVER played an NHL game and he is a WINGER, not a center, hence why the ducks got him to be a winger
6. 21 year old Puck Moving RHD who can skate better than most forwards are never available ever, flyers gave up value in cutter, but got value back. IT was kept quiet that he wanted out, many NHL GMs did not know this until after the trade.
7. When there are 18-20 teams interested in Cutter, the flyers did not settle.
8. If Drysdale hits his ceiling and becomes Zach Werenski or Cale Makar, it does not matter what Cutter is, Teams would kill for Werenski or Cale Makar, but they cant develop or attain them. Ducks have a deep D pipeline, Flyers needed a 1D....
I have my flaws with the Philadelphia Flyers, but they did not settle or lose this trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 févr. à 9 h 5
Sujet:
DId the pens Miss out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>That's funny, how you get Tippet again?
You got hosed on your trade btw. He's not that good and PHL knew that, it was the best offer for what they could get in a bad situation.
Don't come telling me how Jake isn't a larger offer. On a value scale it more than makes sense, and you could easily have flipped him for a better young defenseman.
They had no leverage and hence took a lessor return.
Of course ANA might be the real one out, if he decides not to sign there either.</div></div>
Guentzel is a great player, but you need to realize that no team in the league is trading a guy like Drysdale or Cutter for a 30-year-old on an expiring contract who has played with Sid most of his career. Not downplaying JG value, he will get you a first+ but guys like Cutter and Drysdale 99% of the time are not on the market. If cutter doesn't want out, Drysdale is still a duck probably for a long time. Guenztel is not going to get close to a Drysdale in return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 févr. à 8 h 59
Sujet:
DId the pens Miss out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>none of that is true on Tippet he was always considered a good prospect/younger player
You fail to read the points I'm making.
Number 1 your whole rearview mirror is a joke.
Number 2 Drysdale was moved by ANA because he was an injury history poor performing player and they realized they could get out of it and get a better prospect.
Don't come tell me about how Drysdale is a better return. If someone offered Drysdale and a 2nd to the penguins for Jake you'd be laughed out the room.
The fact is, PHL got a poor return on a guy, because their hand was forced.
What I'm showing here is maybe the Pens missed out and could have offered a much higher return.
PHL could have easily flipped Jake to get what they wanted if they wanted youth in a defenseman.
40 goal scorers don't grow on trees.
But the Pens weren't in the market then on moving him so it passed them by.
You are so hung up on the age you act like teams will accept a lessor return. There is no evidence of that.
If anything the opposite is always true. Picks and prospects are always moved for more established players.
If you came with some sort of logical argument you might have something, but you don't.
Hell I even gave one myself that they might not have wanted another LW given their depth.
If they don't move Cam they don't have the depth so they'd have to 3 way trade a deal if they wanted to move him out for Defense.
That's an actual logical argument why it wouldn't happen.
But saying, oh he's 30 we wouldn't want a 40 goal scorer for a guy we can't sign because of that but lets take this under performing young defenseman with an injury history.
That has 0 logic to it.</div></div>
Drysdale is a 21 year old RHD who can skate better than most forwards, He was in a bad situation in ANA, and probaly got rushed into the scene too quick with them. If the flyers can turn Drysdale into what his ceiling could be, it does not matter what Cutter becomes. Having young puck moving smooth skating RHD is an asset you will never find. Not downplaying Cutter as he is going to be a stud in the NHL, but there were always doubts about him playing center, and only being a winger. ANA made this trade because they have hit on many of their D-man draft picks and felt the addition of Cutter where he can play on the wing of McTavish or Carlsson will be massive. Going back on Drysdale, if Brad Shaw and Torts can make Risto look like a Top 4 d-man and have Sean Walker who was a cap dump have a career year, imagine what 3-4 years for Drysdale under Torts will be. Giving him the Werenski Treatment. As for the Pens, they had nothing reasonable they could offer the flyers. They do not have picks or prospects, nor do they have a player like Drysdale. JG is a good player, but he is the exact opposite of what the flyers need. 20 years ago the old guard flyers made this trade, now? Never.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 juin 2023 à 15 h 21
Sujet:
Hart to Montreal
look what provy got, We wont have to give up our 7th OA
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 mai 2023 à 11 h 21
Sujet:
Off season - Summer of 23
prolly need to add florida 2024 1st to cbj trade to move up
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 mai 2023 à 9 h 51
Sujet:
Why Let Cooley go to FA
this isnt real right? this is a joke?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
24 avr. 2023 à 15 h 57
Sujet:
swing for the FA fences
It will be more for Granlund, habs got a 1st for Monahan who although is making a bit more, still was a really good player. Probably need to give up a second-rounder and expect nothing back. Teams also know pens wanna clear cap and new management will want to dump these hextall guys, so teams will handcuff the pens
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 avr. 2023 à 16 h 18
Sujet:
This is how Id manage the offseason
that buffalo trade... wooof
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 mars 2023 à 17 h 46
Sujet:
Let the rebuild truly begin
Swap FLA 1st to MTL first and the hart deal will prolly go thru
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 mars 2023 à 16 h 31
Sujet:
Danny needs to move fast and break things
Senko would not come here, hayes trade is interesting tho... i like it
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 10
Sujet:
This would be a bad idea but maybe Hextall is destroying us
dont get your hopes up, its hextall--- You guys are thinking Chychrun, hexy is thinking radko gudas-- not even he is thinking nick seeler.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 août 2022 à 20 h 28
Sujet:
Final moves
flyers said they wont give up a first for JVR if they didn't do it for JohnnyG they arent doing it now
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 juill. 2022 à 12 h 22
Sujet:
Schmaltz to Pens
So Arizona gives up an asset to take both of the pens bad contracts? It is not a secret that PIT wants to get rid of Zucker and Petterson
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2022 à 22 h 32
Sujet:
Flyers opening Night Roster oh boy
One step closer to a chance at Connor Bedard... only to finish last in the league and drop to four while the devils will get the first overall:))))
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2022 à 20 h 13
Sujet:
Tank again Bedards better than Gaudreau
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>They new rule starting counting in 2022...so we can win it once more in next 5. Max is 2 wins in 5-year window.</div></div>
did not realize it was twice...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2022 à 19 h 59
Sujet:
Tank again Bedards better than Gaudreau
Im pretty sure since they won the lottery this year, they cannot win it for the next 5 years...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 juill. 2022 à 13 h 15
Sujet:
Retool that probably wont work
Johnny isnt coming.... amazing with all the pics **** fletcher desides to deal.... but wont move a first to basically get JohnnyG
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 juill. 2022 à 15 h 40
Sujet:
Expectation
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>“Fletcher is an idiot”
Any Wild fan with 1/2 a brain could have told you that!!</div></div>
pain.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 juill. 2022 à 15 h 39
Sujet:
Expectation
dont worry, we wont trade JVR and a 1st for Johnny G! We will use the cap space and sign Braun back and we will get the " Getting Sean Couturier healthy is like picking up top tier free agent"...... Chuck needs to go and Comcast needs to sell the team...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 juill. 2022 à 12 h 19
Sujet:
JohnnyG
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kaiser1776</b></div><div>Honestly I don’t think Ellis will be on ltir for very long</div></div>
I think he's done, the flyers and Ellis have been extremely vague about his return, for the past 9 months we have heard little to no good news about Ellis. I think he's not gonna play this season, and then call it quits next.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
30 mai 2022 à 21 h 1
Sujet:
Best Flyers Team to Not Win the Cup
Gutting, they had some really good teams... imagine if Kerr and Mccrimmon are healthy in 87, even Grant Fuhr said a healthy Tim Kerr would change the outcome of that series.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 mai 2022 à 13 h 5
Sujet:
This team would be so fun to watch
flyers wont do a deal w hexy, and they wont ship TK to pens
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 mai 2022 à 13 h 4
Sujet:
32 Thoughts Bomb from Elliotte
I feel that Letang is more valuable than Malkin, If I was Hextall, i would push for to get Letang resigned quickly. However, we are dealing with Ron Hextall.....
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 mai 2022 à 10 h 42
Sujet:
Crazy idea
you will need more for kane... you are giving nothing away and Chicago is retaining half....
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