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Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. à 19 h 23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>You are basically admitting Drysdale was a struggling player of low value who needed to be rehabbed.
You are really going to go on with the argument that, that has more value that a consistent 35-40 goal winger?
This is where it ends. We are talking value in and value out here. What they got in return for Cutter was low. We know, because he wouldn't sign aka no leverage in a trade.

The point was already made, by me that maybe they wanted defense instead of a winger. That's an acceptable logic. But telling me teams don't trade prospects for good players in the peak of their career is just a bs excuse.
As I've said, odds are PHL could have got a better younger prospect flipping jake, aka a 3 way trade where the prospect for Jake ended up being Cutter, and a young defenseman ends up going to PHL.
Mainly because PHL could have got more from Jake than a young prospect that was refusing to sign with them.
They settled on Drysdale, poor performing and injury history because they could do no better.</div></div>


1. Why would the flyers Trade Cutter to the pens or any metro team in general

2. Drysdale has value, more value than JG. Not saying that JG does not have value, but all of NHLGMS would not trade Drysdale for JG, or Cutter for JG. Blue Chip for Blue Chip thats it.

3. JG is not a blue chip guy, he is an accessory piece on an expiring contract who has played with Sid his whole life. He is a great goal scorer, but not worth Drysdale or Cutter on an expiring contract with NO guarentee that he will resign with that team. Not to mention he is 29-30 years old and gonna ask for more than 7 years

4. Say what you want about Drysdale being "damaged goods" he has played in the NHL before, I think anybody on that ANA could use a "change of scenery". Zegras is dealing with the same issues, do you think he is damaged goods? Does not mean he does not have value, rumors had it the Ducks added the second to outbid another team, as soon as Drysdale was in trade talks, the flyers knew they were gonna get him.

5. I do think cutter is a great player, but he also has NEVER played an NHL game and he is a WINGER, not a center, hence why the ducks got him to be a winger

6. 21 year old Puck Moving RHD who can skate better than most forwards are never available ever, flyers gave up value in cutter, but got value back. IT was kept quiet that he wanted out, many NHL GMs did not know this until after the trade.

7. When there are 18-20 teams interested in Cutter, the flyers did not settle.

8. If Drysdale hits his ceiling and becomes Zach Werenski or Cale Makar, it does not matter what Cutter is, Teams would kill for Werenski or Cale Makar, but they cant develop or attain them. Ducks have a deep D pipeline, Flyers needed a 1D....

I have my flaws with the Philadelphia Flyers, but they did not settle or lose this trade.
Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. à 9 h 5
Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. à 8 h 59
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>none of that is true on Tippet he was always considered a good prospect/younger player
You fail to read the points I'm making.
Number 1 your whole rearview mirror is a joke.
Number 2 Drysdale was moved by ANA because he was an injury history poor performing player and they realized they could get out of it and get a better prospect.

Don't come tell me about how Drysdale is a better return. If someone offered Drysdale and a 2nd to the penguins for Jake you'd be laughed out the room.
The fact is, PHL got a poor return on a guy, because their hand was forced.
What I'm showing here is maybe the Pens missed out and could have offered a much higher return.
PHL could have easily flipped Jake to get what they wanted if they wanted youth in a defenseman.
40 goal scorers don't grow on trees.
But the Pens weren't in the market then on moving him so it passed them by.

You are so hung up on the age you act like teams will accept a lessor return. There is no evidence of that.
If anything the opposite is always true. Picks and prospects are always moved for more established players.

If you came with some sort of logical argument you might have something, but you don't.
Hell I even gave one myself that they might not have wanted another LW given their depth.
If they don't move Cam they don't have the depth so they'd have to 3 way trade a deal if they wanted to move him out for Defense.

That's an actual logical argument why it wouldn't happen.
But saying, oh he's 30 we wouldn't want a 40 goal scorer for a guy we can't sign because of that but lets take this under performing young defenseman with an injury history.
That has 0 logic to it.</div></div>

Drysdale is a 21 year old RHD who can skate better than most forwards, He was in a bad situation in ANA, and probaly got rushed into the scene too quick with them. If the flyers can turn Drysdale into what his ceiling could be, it does not matter what Cutter becomes. Having young puck moving smooth skating RHD is an asset you will never find. Not downplaying Cutter as he is going to be a stud in the NHL, but there were always doubts about him playing center, and only being a winger. ANA made this trade because they have hit on many of their D-man draft picks and felt the addition of Cutter where he can play on the wing of McTavish or Carlsson will be massive. Going back on Drysdale, if Brad Shaw and Torts can make Risto look like a Top 4 d-man and have Sean Walker who was a cap dump have a career year, imagine what 3-4 years for Drysdale under Torts will be. Giving him the Werenski Treatment. As for the Pens, they had nothing reasonable they could offer the flyers. They do not have picks or prospects, nor do they have a player like Drysdale. JG is a good player, but he is the exact opposite of what the flyers need. 20 years ago the old guard flyers made this trade, now? Never.