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Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars à 9 h 17
Sujet: stanley cup champions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CooleyforCalder</b></div><div>Yotes don't need Ceci unless he comes "gift" wrapped.</div></div>

I want to note that Ceci is far from resetting the cap, he is working out his contract to every cent. I don't see any logical grain in your reasoning. You don't need a defenseman who plays consistently well for 20 minutes every game in the 6th round of the draft, the selections of which you have like snow in the winter, what do you get for selecting a prospect at the end of the draft who, if he even makes it to the NHL, at best in six years , and that’s not a fact. And here you get a legitimate right-handed defender for a reasonable price for just one season, which will add experience to your defense, I’m already silent that at the deadline you will capitalize your spent 6th round into the 3rd round of the playoffs by giving Ceci with withholding the salary for the remainder of the season for the applicant as an experienced middle-pair defender.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 mars à 12 h 19
Sujet: stanley cup champions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Kulak and Ceci are worth more than that. The Oilers paid a 2nd + C prospect for Kulak and he's only gotten better since then, they would expect at least a 2nd in return. Ceci, being RH and playing higher in the order than Kulak is worth more, probably 2nd + 3rd.</div></div>

Your words are in God's ears. I completely share your point of view. But look at the bombardment of previous commentators, fans of other teams don’t particularly like our defenders, although I know that this is nonsense. Ceci is a solid mid-pair defender, but I'm sure we need an upgrade to a top-4 right-back, and for me there are four favorites in the league that I consider: Pareiko, Larsson, Tanev and Pesci. Pareiko is my favorite, it’s akin to a home run, like Ekholm is only in the right, it’s also important that he’s a local Edmontonian, but unfortunately he’s locked up and it’s not possible to get him from St. Louise. Larsson is of course good, and his unexpected departure from the organization greatly crippled the Oilers, although they try not to talk about it, but Seattle will not let him go, and most importantly for me, he is a traitor after his departure and he has nothing to do in Edmonton after his escape. Tanev is unlikely to sign with Edmonton; most likely he will continue with Dallas. Pesci is the only real candidate for an upgrade to the top-4 right-back and this will be a strong signing that will fill this top-4 position for the next three years.
Kulak, in my opinion, is an elite third-pairing league defender, his swing is perfect, a very strong defender, and besides, he’s local, it’s a shame to give him up, but we need money and a place for Broberg, I hope this prospect will become a legitimate top defender in a couple of years
Forum: Armchair-GM2 mars à 8 h 1
Sujet: CONROYS OBVIOUS STUPIDITY WHICH WILL ONLY HARM HIS ORGANIZATION
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>He is stupid for valuing a good prospect and a 2nd more than a late 1st while also not helping out the enemy?</div></div>

We have a saying in Russia: To spite my mother, I will freeze my ears. You probably operate on the same principle. We will accept any offer as long as it is not from Edmonton. Late first round? Will the second round from Dallas be too late? Or you would get a choice in the region of 25-32 choices, or 57-64, it’s still not the same thing. Or do you think that Dallas is second in the West and took Tanev to safely merge in the first round? And then please tell me you have about 25 more games to play, who will play in your second pair now?, that is, a proven defender of the main team, I think, would not be out of place for you, and then he has a contract for reasonable money for the next year, you from Ceci received a 3rd round draft pick at the next deadline, despite the fact that you didn’t need a right-handed defenseman from the free agent market, in which you would definitely overpay.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 6 h 8
Sujet: stanley cup champions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dekes</b></div><div>Every single ACGM I’ve seen has the oilers moving Ceci for an upgrade, clearly there is a common theme that oilers are fine parting ways with ceci. If ceci was anything worse keeping he wouldn’t be included in these trades as a cap casualty.

Lindholm returns a 1st+ Tanev returns a 1st

You have offered a 20 yr old prospect that’s under .5ppg in the AHL and will be quite a bit down Calgary’s depth chart for young wingers. Akey is a decent young dman but at best projects to be a #4 dman but for a puck moving offensively minded dman you’d want to see a higher point production in the OHL which is high scoring Junior

Ever since pitsburgh he’s always been overplayed and that’s shown with his team’s success playing him 20 minutes a night

2 1sts
Broberg or Holloway
Ceci for cap reasons
Akey or Bourgeault
Is the minimum for Lindholm and Tanev
With Calgary retaining 4.675 mill.

-You are ignoring factors like Calgary can probably get better returns selling each player separate.
- Edmonton is a div rival and Calgarys biggest rival they will pry out the max value they can

As for Ceci
Never has had a WAR above 40%
EV defence hovers around the 60th percentile
EV offence around 20th percentile
PK percentile has him well below average since joining Edmonton
He’s a turnover machine.
His GF/GA differential has barely been even or negative for most his career
His Corsi is below 46%

It has always been stated that teams have always overplayed him and he’s not a 20 minute a night defenceman.


Yes he may block shots and yes he may hit but those stats have to been taken with a grain of salt at time. Rasmus Ristolainen Blocked lots of shots and hit a ton, usually was top of the league in both those categories but he was a defensive liability.

Cody Ceci has his Highs but his Lows are much more detrimental, he’s inconsistent and that’s the bottom line</div></div>

Look, I get it, you like to exaggerate the things you talk about. Well, okay, that's your right.
To the point. Ceci is a cap dump, no it is not, it is not a lie based on actual facts. I'm basing this on personal impressions of actual Edmonton games, match results, and statistical numbers. Therefore, there is no need to judge the defender by how some fans of this site manage him; this is not the ultimate truth.
I don’t argue, Tanev is an improvement on Ceci, that’s why I made this exchange. But the truth is that this is not a huge improvement in the position, but a small improvement in the parameters that Ceci is already in good condition. For example, I think Tanev is a better skater, tougher, this is his advantage over Ceci. Over the past five seasons, Ceci has a positive +/- score, playing more than 20 minutes per game in Edmonton's first pairing against the opponent's best forwards. Listen, I don’t go deep into statistics, I give numbers of classical statistics, and they are good for him, but this is for an outside observer. And I first of all judge by the real game, Ceci is a reliable defender, he does high-quality defensive work, he has no mistakes in defense and is sent off very little, an excellent defender, definitely not a scorer, but he can support the attack, good passes and a good shot.
So my offer is Ceci + Akey is a package for Tanev, since Ceci is a legitimate player of the 2nd pair of any NHL team, who plays for a reasonable price for one more season, and at the next deadline Calgary will receive for him with half of his salary withheld 2- oh draft pick. Akey is a high-scoring blueliner who moves the puck well, with the potential to be an NHL 2nd defenseman in three years. In the last rookie camp, he was the best defender, despite being the youngest. This is a worthy offer.
For Lindholm, I offered the 1st round of the draft + Bourgault, who was selected in the 1st round of the 21 year draft, yes, I agree he is not very productive in the AHL, but he definitely has the potential to be a mid-six forward in the NHL in two years.
And the fifth round of the draft for withholding half of the salary is an accepted price, look at the last deadline.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 janv. à 21 h 8
Sujet: a completely unserious proposal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JacketsComrade</b></div><div>30 year old 0.25 point per game UFA defenseman cody ceci at $3.2 million (that everyone agrees needs to be moved) is "definitely better" than 23 year old 0.4 point per game RFA defenseman adam boqvist?</div></div>

I don’t understand that a 30-year-old defenseman is a disadvantage. In my opinion, 30 years old is a great age for an NHL defenseman. For a team in the cup window, it’s a great and most suitable age for a player on their team. The Oilers are now not in a position to take a promising player and develop him in the main lineup, an example from our system is Broberg, an excellent defender, but those who play in the base are those who are better here and now. At this age, age regression has not yet occurred. I don't see a problem.
Next are points per game. This parameter does not show the strength of the defender; after all, we are not talking about attackers. Yes, of course, this is an important indicator, but far from the main one. In attacking actions, Boqvist may be more developed than Ceci, but this is a pleasant bonus in Boqvist’s game, nothing more. First of all, a defender is required to play reliable defense, this is the main thing. I will not delve into statistics, I will give only the main indicators. Boqvist has a negative +/- throughout his career, which is bad. Yes, I understand we have to make allowances for the team where the defender plays; after all, Chicago and Columbus are not the most reliable teams for this period of time, but still this is an indicator. Ceci is definitely better in defense.
Next, Ceci is not Ufa, he will have another year of contract, and 3.2 million is a lucrative contract for his game. And Ufa or Russian Federation is not an indicator of the strength of the defender. Moreover, with Boqvist, arbitration is shining in a year with his offensive actions. I can imagine what a tidy sum his next arbitration decision will cost Columbus, I wouldn’t be surprised if the amount is in the region of 4 million and it’s not a fact that Columbus will happily sign him for such a tidy sum amount, taking into account his not the best defensive performance.
Then the statement that everyone agrees that the Ceci contract needs to be moved, how did you come to this conclusion? This statement does not stand up to criticism. This suggests that you are saying something you don’t know and simply haven’t seen Edmonton games. A person has been playing in the top 4 for the last three years, on average he plays more than 20 minutes per game, the utility indicator is always positive, an extremely disciplined player with a small number of penalty minutes, he works out his contract to the last cent.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 janv. à 22 h 34
Sujet: stanley cup champions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haymaker26</b></div><div>I don't think it's worthy. Guentzel's been a consistent 35+, 75+ point player for nearly his entire career and guys that can contribute offensively like he can do not come easily or cheap. None of Copponi, Berezkin, or Petrov really jump off the page. We're not really getting anything more than a 1st here. Players that have had better returns in the last year include Alex Newhook, Filip Hronek, and Jake McCabe. None of those guys come anywhere close to Jake's value.</div></div>

Well, first of all, it’s not entirely correct to give an example with defenders Hronek and McCabe, after all, we are talking about a striker. Then look how much Chicago got for Kane at the last deadline, Kane is clearly not inferior to Guentzel in terms of skill, and this was the late 2nd round and late 4th round. So I wouldn’t unequivocally say that my offer is bad, because it’s just a loan, and not a productive striker with a contract for a couple of years.
For example, they got the 2nd round for Niedereiter, and he had another year plus on his contract, and of course he is a different kind of power forward, but still productive in the middle six.
And for Oreilly and, in addition, the legitimate 4th center, Assiari received two current AHL forwards and the 1st, 2nd, 3rd round of the draft. I may add another 2nd round draft for good measure.
And for Tarasenko (also not the last man in the attack, at that time 38 games 29 points) and in addition Mikkola, the legitimate defender of the third pair received a cap reset in the person of Blaze, because for 1.5 million he did not play, AHL defensive defender, late 1 1st and 4th round.
I dare to suggest that your desires are slightly at odds with reality.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 janv. à 9 h 17
Sujet: stanley cup champions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AK50</b></div><div>IMO it's not suitable for a deep run. You need a guy who can reliably come into relief for Skinner and someone better in Desharnais' place.</div></div>

I have questions about your verdict. For what reasons did you decide that our goalkeepers who follow Skinner will not cope with their task of giving the necessary rest to Skinner, Picard does an excellent job as a backup, I am quite comfortable with him, Rodrigue is currently the best goalkeeper in the AHL, and I hope for recovery Campbell as backup for the end of the season. Picard has a 90.4 save percentage in 6 games.
Regarding Desharnais, he is a legitimate third pairing defender, he does his job perfectly, he does not need to be replaced.
Desharnais has +/- +1 at 14 minutes per game, which also suggests that the person copes with his task and does not sag.