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Forum: Armchair-GM25 juin 2019 à 9 h 18
Forum: Armchair-GM10 juin 2019 à 19 h 46
Sujet: trying again im only human
Both Marner's and Johnsson's deals are too low. Johnsson said no to a similar offer back at the trade deadline, and if he said no then I doubt he would say yes to a ~300k/year pay raise. Marner will be signing for north of 10 million AAV if it's on a long term deal (6 years or more). Skinner just got 9 million for 63 points, and yes he was a UFA and yes he scores more goals than Marner but I doubt Skinner will ever eclipse the 70 point mark in his career and have the overall impact Marner will. It's a classic case of having an amazing season in your contract year, but good for Skinner I've always liked him as a player.

Marner will easily eclipse 100 pts in his career, probably more than once too, so the Leafs have to pay him for both his current output and projected output. I know that a long-term deal for Marner starting at 10 million handcuffs the Leafs, but that's not Marner's problem. Dubas has to get creative and make it all work - should be interesting.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 juin 2019 à 11 h 7
Sujet: Stars Align
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kzaker12</b></div><div>Hawks Fan coming in peace...

The reason the organization was so desperate to dump Hossa to Arizona in the first place was due to the stipulations of LTIR. In order to make deadline deals with extra cap space, the Blackhawks had to be salary cap compliant (including Hossa's contract) by the first day of the season. From there, they could place him on LTIR and have 5.275 million in cap space for in-season moves and acquisitions.

The alternative is to be exactly over the cap by his deal at the start of the season. From there, he could be placed on LTIR, but the Hawks would have perpetually been at the cap ceiling all year.

The organization dealt with Hossa on LTIR for one season after his allergy and it really handcuffed the moves they could make in the 2017-2018 season.

Taking on Hossa's contract with Horton will be different for the Leafs this year, as they will be at the cap for the first time in a while with actual players they are icing.

I wouldn't be so quick to bank on LTIR as a "magic potion"</div></div>

Agreed - and unfortunately Marner's deal is nowhere close to realistic...he declined 9.5 million AAV last week over a long term deal. He'll need - minimum - something that starts with 10 million on a long term deal.
Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2019 à 13 h 32
Sujet: Keeping NZ
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>Feels like deja vu with the whole offer sheet threat, Nylander wanted 8.5 every ACGM at that time had him signing an offer sheet and yet no offer sheet came and the kid signed at 6.9 so Marners wants 11 and gets 9/9.5 x 6 tops</div></div>

It's a false equivalency to compare Nylander's RFA situation to Marner's. Nylander had back to back 61 point seasons, didn't show any real growth, and disappeared in both playoff rounds he was a part of. Sure, some teams might have wanted him but probably not to the extent to offer sheet him. Also - the Leafs had a ton of cap space in the 2018/2019 season, so an offer sheet would not have jammed them up as much as it would going into the 2019/2020 season.

Marner will get at least 10 million AAV on a long-term deal (i.e., at least 6 years), whether it's from the Leafs or from an offer sheet. His point total, even strength numbers, all-situation playing ability (PP, PK, even strength) all make him very desirable on the open market. Sure - Marner's camp might be bluffing when they said they'll be visiting teams starting June 26th when the RFA window opens, but it's a negotiation tactic and Darren Ferris will use every tool he can to get his client the best deal possible. And enough with the "Marner only got 93 points cause he played with JT" argument. JT never scored 40 plus goals until he played with Marner, so by your logic JT would have never been an elite goal scorer if it wasn't for Marner. They complemented each other very well, and up until this year Marner had not played with anyone that shared his level of hockey sense. For his two first years he was playing with Bozak and Kadri, and even on the 4th line for some of the 2017-2018 season.

People act like Marner getting over 10 million AAV on a long term deal is crazy. Signing Matthews to his deal at 11.6 AAV for only 5 years could be viewed as equally crazy; is Matthews seriously the second best player in the league behind McDavid? Some might say yes, some no, but the fact is he's being paid the second highest in the league AAV wise. More importantly, Dubas has now set the precedent for their organization that they will pay their highly touted RFAs for their projected worth and not their current value. So if Marner signs for 10.5 AAV at 6 years, is that really overpaying him if he consistently produces 85-100 points? Probably not - it would be considered market appropriate value given the output.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 mai 2019 à 12 h 56
Sujet: What to do with Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>blowing_the_zone</b></div><div>Um, yeah, no. Your post clearly had no words to comprehend.

But in going through my post that you were responding to I found a snippet that you embedded in my response to you.

I have a hard time trying to understand the point that you're trying to make when your text is right infront of me, let alone trying to make sense out of you when I need to go hunting for your reply. But now that I've found what you wrote... yeah, I still don't get the point of what you're trying to get across??

There's probably a bunch of 12 yr old kids that frequent this site that could teach you how to use that fancy dancy multi post feature. You should ask them how its done.

Or you could use that old school cut and paste/copy function to move text from one post to the next. It's easy. You just need to know the difference between right and left click...Let me know if you get stuck, I'd be happy to walk you through it..

Ciao chica</div></div>

I'm not responsible for the coding behind this website - I clicked the quote function as I always do, not sure why it didn't register.

Not surprised you can't comprehend - you've routinely demonstrated a lack of understanding since this post originated. Glad to check in again when Marner signs a deal worth at least 10 million AAV :)
Forum: Armchair-GM30 mai 2019 à 11 h 20
Sujet: What to do with Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>blowing_the_zone</b></div><div>Well, that's good that we agree that both CNN and Fox are garbage. |I tells me that you don't necessarily believe what the talking heads on the TV are trying to sell you and why they might have incentive to do that.

You’re more than entitled to having that opinion on sports media figureheads.

I’m not portraying them as purists who only report for the common good. My take is that they have a professional obligation to report on behalf of their employer. Obviously the better they do the more they get rewarded by the company - which is self-serving, yes, but I’m also not squirrelly enough to think that they’re selling their souls in return for compensation. If they operated that way, no one would trust their reporting and their journalistic reputation would be ruined and their employers wouldn’t re-up them for their next employment contract. In other words, I’m more in the middle of the spectrum that you presented. Clear?

As to the rest of it... ugh. If you're not understanding my side of this discussion by now, there's really nothing that I can add without spending countless posts circling around your drain..

So, lets agree to disagree.

My position is that the majority of the media knuckleheads, and specifically Dreger, are disingenuous at best, and full of it at worst.

Your position appears to be that media knuckleheads don't operate from a position of self interest and exist merely to report the facts in an unbiased way in order to enlighten and inform the public in the name of the greater good.

I'm good with my take. Thanks for coming out, Rush.</div></div>
Forum: Armchair-GM30 mai 2019 à 10 h 52
Sujet: What to do with Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>blowing_the_zone</b></div><div><strong>Some markets, like Toronto for hockey, are more intense than others - but enough with the collusion talk that they're front men for agents</strong>. I love circular arguments that keep coming back to a faulty premise. As the intellectual giant that you clearly are, I'm sure you'll recall my first post to you where I wrote...<strong>I don't know if anyone is suggesting that Dreger works for Ferris, that seems pretty sensational. Dreger obviously works for himself, first and foremost. Then I'd say he works for his employer, TSN. What seems pretty obvious is that the bulk of Dregers "sources" are likely the agents themselves, and what is playing out is negotiations through the media in terms of trying to sway public opinion i.e. how far can Marner's camp take this?
</strong> which kinda spells out where I'm coming from on this..

I don't know how to make this any easier for you, but I'll try.. they are not colluding. Ferris feeds Dreger info that he wants to that benefits Marner's camp's position. Dreger reports on that cause his primary source of info are player's agents (see the just written rationale). Dreger creates a sh*tstorms, the public tunes in, comments are made etc, people head to TSN to see what the fuss is about. Dreger wins. TSN wins. Ferris gets to gauge the reaction... not. rocket. science.

But for the record I don't believe in the illuminati. .. nor do I believe that the media in general is some unbiased, integrity filled industry and that isn't working from a revenue model, which defines, in part, the "news" they report on. But that's ok rush, you just keep on believing that Fox News and CNN have your best interests at heart.. cause that's flexing the serious intellectual muscle that you have..</div></div>

It’s still laughable how you can infer that a NHL insider reporting on something through his media outlet (TSN) is the equivalent of starting **** storms. You do realize that their sources are not just agents - they’re front office executives as well. And if Dreger’s reputation is so volatile why does he keep getting information from front offices? That’s what you fail to understand - Dreger, McKenzie etc. have no vested interest in what a player signs for. They don’t receive a cut of the deal, they can’t receive HRR; all they’ll receive is what is already in their contract from their media outlet and employer = TSN. Nothing more nothing less. For someone who claims to fathom how media and reporting works there are significant logic gaps that you fail to reconcile.

Fox and CNN are both garbage - we’ll agree on that :)
Forum: Armchair-GM29 mai 2019 à 15 h 42
Sujet: What to do with Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>blowing_the_zone</b></div><div>No. I seriously expect journalist to have some credibility or they lose it. Otherwise we should just call a spade a spade and call them sports entertainers..

What I wrote was this...

<strong>What I'd really like to see is some reporter/TV host ask, point blank, Dreger and his media knucklehead compatriots who exactly is their source? I'd love to see the deer in the headlights look from Dreger when confronted on his insider knowledge.</strong>

I don't expect him to reveal his source. But I'd love to see him asked that question, cause his likely deer in the headlights response would show him for what he really is.. which is likely a shill for an agents position. It's not rocket science to comprehend what I wrote, rush5154.</div></div>

I expect that every journalist covering an industry where discussions are withheld from the public would give the same, generic answer: I'm not revealing my source...

You're right - what you wrote isn't rocket science, it's intellectually lazy and nonsensical. All insiders, whether it's hockey (Dreger, Friedmann, McKenzie, Lebrun), basketball (Woj), football (schefter) all run the risk of speaking in the media regarding what they're hearing around the league. The reality is, fans have a vested interest in their teams and their players so any content that is relevant to that fan base will be disseminated in the media accordingly. Some markets, like Toronto for hockey, are more intense than others - but enough with the collusion talk that they're front men for agents. If that's still your position, you probably believe in the illuminati too...