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Forum: Armchair-GM5 avr. 2023 à 13 h 40
Sujet: hope
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>You just made claims with no data. You can talk about his injury or whatever you want, but those are all factors that arent gonna go away. He also hasnt been better since returning lol, his analytics did not improve since he returned. Anyways I am done with this. There is no argument I could make, objective or not, that could convince you. You are very unreasonable</div></div>

Since when is making objective statements (ie. he was hurt, now he is not hurt) being emotional? You just haven't been making sense. All you had to do was say, "I havent watched this guy play at all but this is what the analytics say" instead of claiming to know how good/bad he is based on numbers that don't provide any context haha. Your age is showing.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 avr. 2023 à 12 h 16
Sujet: hope
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>watching means nothing when we have quantitive stats that remove all bias and are strictly data points on a consistent scale. Using the eye test is just saying that you like a player. You have no data or quantities to justify your beliefs, solely bias</div></div>

In instances like Demko's season, the eye test means everything and the analytics mean nothing. The analytics remove all context around whats happened through this year. He was injured at the beginning of the season and was playing through it. He is now healthy again. The eye test confirms that in the way he moves and resets after going down to make a save. His lateral movements are cleaner and stronger than at the beginning of the season and he is now making saves that he didnt have the health/strength to make before. Its not about bias, its about context and knowledge of the player beyond numbers. Again, just say "hey my opinion on this player is based on numbers and not having watched him play".
Forum: Armchair-GM7 févr. 2023 à 14 h 4
Sujet: If Demko is Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>I do not think it's a stretch to call Brandt Clarke equal to a 1st rounder - he was the #8OA pick in 2021 and has done nothing but validate that pedigree since.

So, with that in mind, it's worth noting: the only goalie traded in the last 5 years for a 1st round pick was Darcy Kuemper before last season - colorado gave up a 1st you could reasonably predict would be a pick in the mid/late-20s, Connor Timmins, and a conditional 3rd for Darcy Kuemper with retention. Kuemper was coming off a 3 year run in Arizona where he put up a .922 SV% and 2.35 GAA in 111 GP, getting Vezina &amp; postseason All-Star votes in 2 of those years, and even getting some down-ballot Hart Trophy votes in 2019. In other words, dude was on a crazy heater and Colorado viewed him as the guy to get them over the hump - and they *still* got retention coming back in that deal.

Even if you throw out Demko's struggles this year (a big ask, I'd say), his numbers still don't touch Kuemper's - .913 SV%, 2.83 GAA, and only really recognized with postseason award votes last season. I just can't see him getting similar value back in a trade, especially when you have to consider that he struggled mightily this year before getting injured - his trade value has definitely taken a hit.

Beyond all that - why the hell would the Kings, in playoff position, trade 2 of their 3 goalies with NHL experience for a guy in Demko who still isn't healthy enough to play and has been out with a lower body injury for 2+ months at this point? And even more so: in what world would the Kings trade Jonathan Quick for *anything*? Dude's the franchise icon, I can get it if he decides to do the Marty Brodeur "one more year" in a weird jersey, but that'll be his choice, not the team unceremoniously shipping him out.</div></div>

Most of that was great so thank you for putting some thought into it. That last paragraph was objectively poor. A quick read of all the comments above (fair if you didnt) and you'd see that this trade is under the assumption Demko is back and playing pre TDL, Quick and Petersen were simply added to help LA with Cap (not because VAN would want them). I think VAN would be fine to let the ship sail on Clarke since he is apparently the second coming of Bobby Orr according to this thread and have the deal be Demko for Grans, a 2023 1st and a sub-23 y/o B-to-B+ forward prospect.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 févr. 2023 à 13 h 28
Sujet: If Demko is Traded
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>You guys have gotta get over the wet dream that we'll be trading for Demko anytime before the summer solstice, or that we'll be trading Clarke without Quinn Hughes coming back.

There are 11 games left before the trade deadline, and Demko isn't off the IR list yet 10 weeks into his "6-week" anticipated rehab time. Anybody who would trade significant assets for him without seeing him play at least 20 games has the IQ of a fish. And he may not have time to get those 20 games in before the end of this season.


The false premise from which all of these silly Petersen trades arise is that we have to get rid of a guy we don't have to get rid of. Our roster is set for next season already with only a $1 million rise in the cap ceiling; Petersen can spend the entire season in Ontario and if he never recovers his early form, we can buy him out cheaply in July 2024, so his cap hit is no concern to us.</div></div>

VAN fans do NOT want to trade Demko so idk what "wet dream" you're talking about. It sounds like management is open to that idea so if thats the case, VAN isnt just gonna dump him for scraps. Thus the title "IF" Demko is traded. C'mon, man just give your comment a little bit of thought before clicking send.