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Forum: Armchair-GM22 mai à 11 h 13
Sujet: Pens taking cap casualties
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>It gives the pick more value to the Pens. Not to other teams. Boston has been in the same situation for a couple of years. Keep the pick and start building up that crappy farm system, or use it to try to get through the open window before it’s to late.

This draft is deeper than most. But the odds of landing a star player there is still slim, a good complimentary player is the most likely outcome. It’s Russian Roulette. 🤷🏻‍♂️</div></div>

But from our perspective the only way we should trade it away is if an insane deal comes around or for a massive massive player. This just isn't it. Like Marner, for example, would change the entire landscape of our team. A 1st alone wouldn't get him. But a 1st + Guentzel? I don't know. Only way I'd consider it is something like that.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 mai à 10 h 47
Sujet: Pens taking cap casualties
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gofnut999</b></div><div>Understandable. However the odds of landing a game changer drafting with the 14th pick is pretty slim. Go look at the history of 14th pick. That pick is not as valuable as you think and the offer is really an under value for the return. 🤷🏻‍♂️. Since 2000 the only true difference maker is Mac. A few good players Debrusk, Farabee, Holloway. Rest are middle of roster to busts. And Mac was rated as a bubble top 10 pick who slid a bit.

You’d rather pass on Ully and Hall to draft the next Wenneberg, Zegmus, Oleksiak or worse Zack Boychuk? The pick is good, it’s not gold. Quite frankly, much like Boston, you don’t have enough in your system to add to that pick to get Marner. Saros could be a possibility.

https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/14-nhl-overall-draft-picks</div></div>

This draft is absolutely insane and we are 1-2 years away from a rebuild with the worst prospect pool in the league. That gives the pick way move value
Forum: Armchair-GM20 mai à 17 h 19
Sujet: What would a guentzel trade look like
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pens3lieve</b></div><div>Honestly, I would be OK if we play it by ear and don’t extend Guentzel yet… At the deadline if we are securely in a playoff spot, we can give him an extension, but if we’re on the fringes at all, then I say trade him</div></div>

That's fair. I think if our season is at all similar to how last season went and we are in a similar spot as last deadline we should trade him. Like in order to extend him (which I would be hesitant about anyways) I think we'd have to be almost locked in to a playoff spot. Like at the point where something would have to go horribly wrong for us to not make it. My biggest concern is the beating that Guentzel takes. He's one of the toughest players in the league and I respect that a ton. How he's not afraid to go to the net and absorb hits. He has a great heart. Just worry how that will affect him later on and if he'll be able to keep up his production much longer.
Forum: Armchair-GM20 mai à 17 h 17
Sujet: Chayka Tulsky tandem
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Adamitis</b></div><div>I mean I am aware of the situation. He said Toronto or nothing. So looks like nothing. What am I missing. “I don’t want to do that to my family” meaning relocation…
Sounds like he’s not an option, as much as the pundits like the idea.</div></div>

My point is no one knows for sure. What if he was just saying that as a negotiating tactic to make them think he could walk away? Because it's pretty obvious he wasn't expecting to be fired. What if that motivated him more? I get what you are saying but what they say to the media isn't always 100% fact. Circumstances change. People can change their minds. No one knows if he would take an offer if FSG gave him a good one. Except him. It very well could be true he wants to spend time with family and obviously would commend him for that. All I'm saying is I don't think his comments to the media rule out the possibility entirely.
Forum: Armchair-GM20 mai à 17 h 3
Sujet: What would a guentzel trade look like
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haymaker26</b></div><div>I get the concern, but we're not talking about <em>just another 30+ year old.</em>

Here's where I stand: I don't really care about the future right now. Guentzel is an elite part of our core in his prime. Malkin, Letang, Rakell, and Rust are already signed long term on contracts that won't be very good by the time they're done. What's one more win now contract for a team that's a few seasons away from a long, hard rebuild? This team's immediate future is a more pressing issue than the far-off consequences of actions that will benefit us in the short term.
And we'll need players to actually fill the roster while we draft and develop the next group. Jake and Rust seem like good candidates to me for leadership roles to bridge the gap between the Big 3 and their successors.</div></div>

8 x 8 contract is massive though. 8 years could potentially be going past the rebuild even. I think it's fair to wonder if this teams best years are behind them after last year. I don't know whether that is the case or not, but I don't think we should go into this offseason assuming they will contend past 2-3 more years. Need to take it year by year when you have a core this old. I get wanting to win now, but having 0 concern for the future when we haven't won a playoff series in 5 years and declined even further the last year I feel could be really disastrous for the future of the team. That contract could be completely immovable by time we rebuild. Then at that point were looking at significantly extending the rebuild making it much longer than it has to be. I guess my concern is that we don't even know whether we'll be a true contender next year so the best thing to do if keep our draft picks this offseason and then wait and see. If we are in a wildcard spot at the deadline or lower then I think we have to trade him. Especially if we are not looking good at that point. I get what your saying completely but an 8 x 8 for this team could be disastrous given how almost every contract on the team will be a negative in 2-3 more years. I just don't think it's a certainty that we even contend next year, maybe they come back and shock us showing they have a ton left in the tank, maybe it declines even worse than this year. But I don't want to do anything super drastic until we see for certain.