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Armchair-GM
mar. à 12 h 11
Sujet:
The right approach
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stadel</b></div><div>Sabres need forwards who have more of a two way game that what Guentzel brings.</div></div>
Gotcha. Value wise though for a team that's similar to Buffalo in draft standing (8-12 maybe around there), do you think this is fair?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 12 h 10
Sujet:
Pens miss Hextall fired Jarry takes 1 year deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>datools</b></div><div>Not a lot of great alternatives</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JSEB93</b></div><div>Since Jarry/Desmith has been the tandem the Pens are 9th in save %. Seems fine to me - would be open to upgrading but not sure what upgrades there are out there.</div></div>
Every season this tandem has let us down. How can we extend Jarry with how he's played? Will turn into an awful contract and is extremely risky. Hasn't proven himself at all. Would rather get a 1a 1b tandem. I mean I think we should rebuild anyways, but if we were contend I'd look at a tandem of maybe Korpisolo/Varlamov. Maybe their ceiling isn't as high as a Jarry/Desmith tandem, but the floor is certainly higher. At their peaks they might not be as good as Jarry, but much much less volatile and could get them both combined (5 mil probably) for the same price Jarry is asking for individually.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 11 h 52
Sujet:
Pens miss Hextall fired Jarry takes 1 year deal
We just cannot go into another season with Jarry and Desmith as the goalie tandem
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 23 h 40
Sujet:
Hextall Gone Hire me please
This team still wouldn't make playoffs, our defense is the biggest issue we have, among many others. Too old and slow and no where near Stanley cup caliber defense. That being said I don't even know if it can be fixed. Would much rather start the rebuild
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 14
Sujet:
Gibson and Vejmelka
That's a bad trade with Anaheim, giving up our whole future, for I'll admit a great 3C, but a goalie that hasn't been doing well himself. This team wouldn't make the playoffs because the defense is the same. Old, slow, easy to play against, and can't defend. While I don't think you improved this team to be a contender, I don't know if anyone could. It's not really a doable task unless we somehow get much much younger which can't really be done in an offseason. It's over with this group I think, time to accept that and rebuild
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 13 h 59
Sujet:
Start The Rebuild Take 2
I like this. Lets hope this absolute clown show ends soon. Now that Peterson is out I'd be shocked if we make playoffs.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 8 h 22
Sujet:
Who we Should Keep
If we trade Guentzel we should be getting picks/younger players in return, not Gibson. This team I don't think is that much of an improvement. Our top 6 is worse and that's a huge overpay on Zucker. I don't think Wood is a top 6 player full time either. And the bottom 6 is pretty weak as well. Poehling I don't think is a 3rd line center and the rest is all the AHL guys who while they've been decent haven't been producing at all.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 8 h 19
Sujet:
Fire Everyone
Should definitely not trade away the first, definitely not for Georgiev
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 8 h 10
Sujet:
FSG please do something
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pens3lieve</b></div><div>Yeah I was just speculating but we both know the pens don’t see themselves correctly. They think they can still win… so I bet they try to be competitive till at least 2025 so two more seasons after this one… even then the core won’t retire until probably 2027 and the pens won’t even be able to be a bottom-5 team until then… even a couple top 5 picks will take a few years to flourish so yeah my guess of 2032 for being relevant again might be off but I doubt that lol 😂</div></div>
I think a lot depends on what ownership does this offseason, but I think we probably are solidly out of a playoff spot next year. I don't think we'll make it this year even, but next year I think we'll probably finish high 70s or low 80s for points. At that point we should rebuild, but wouldn't shock me if we put it off another year. Could also see some of the core guys asking out at that point, or management just going for a rebuild, but impossible to know since FSG given no indication what they want to do. I think we'll be bottom 5 team in 2-4 years then rebuild will probably take 5 so honestly 2030 around is when I expect us to contend again. So yeah actually your pretty accurate on that one.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 19 h 42
Sujet:
Time to Start the Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>Rust will be tough to move with a NMC. I think Rakell goes before him.</div></div>
I could see that
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 19 h 29
Sujet:
penguins offseason
While this is certainly an improvement over this years roster, this team still isn't a contender. Defense is too slow, goaltending pretty iffy, and Granlund as a 3C I still don't buy. That being said, I don't know if much can be done to make this team a contender. Can't really get youth unless we rebuild or trade Guentzel
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 19 h 27
Sujet:
Time to Start the Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>The core (i.e., top 6 incl Z plus Letang) is pretty good despite age, and the majority of them have restrictions on being traded, so as a practical matter, I don't think that anyone is getting moved other than Petry and perhaps (somehow) Carter. I don't see a big market for Granlund, and I doubt that any of the defenders are going to bring back much.</div></div>
I think Guentzel Rust and Petterson get traded as soon as we rebuild. The core I think it depends what they want to do. If they want to go to a contender then management should allow that. If they want to stay and mentor the young talent we draft even better.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 19 h 0
Sujet:
Time to Start the Rebuild
Would you try and trade away anyone for draft picks?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 17 h 30
Sujet:
Worst GM in hockey
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JokiStan</b></div><div>I agree he's a bad GM, I don't think that's particularly up for debate. I just think it's odd a lot of penguins fans go from calling for Hextall's head and declaring the team needs to be burned to the ground during a skid (like we're seeing now), then two weeks later talking about a deep playoff run lmao</div></div>
Ok I see what your saying. Well we aint going on a deep playoff run that's for sure.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 16 h 56
Sujet:
Worst GM in hockey
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JokiStan</b></div><div>Y'all do this every time the Penguins are on a losing streak lmaooo. They'll get into the playoffs and you'll forget all about Hextall</div></div>
No we won't. He's been a horrible GM for years. Obviously the criticism is amplified when were on a bad streak, but look back, we've all been saying this for months. Was horrible in Philly and got fired. Has been even worse here. This isn't just because were on a losing streak, he's just bad. The fact that losing streaks happen so frequently also speaks volumes. It's because of his horrible roster construction. Majority of us have been saying he's bad since the expansion draft. I don't think we'll forget about it if we make playoffs, which is a big if. Another first round loss and sweeping change should be made. You really think he's done a good job?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 16 h 42
Sujet:
Worst GM in hockey
*Worst GM in sports
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 16 h 39
Sujet:
FSG please do something
When do you anticipate the rebuild would start though? The core have been fantastic this year, but they won't be able to play at this level for much longer. I don't think its worth it extensively retooling the roster to make it a contender for maximum only 1 more year of contending. I don't know if it's possible either. This team desperately needs youth and the only way to do it is to rebuild or trade Guentzel basically. If we have a new GM come in with an extensive, concrete plan to contend for 1 year then rebuild after then I'll be fine with it. But I don't know if it's worth it only for maybe a year. I would just prefer to start the rebuild now and make it less lengthy and painful. If we do that then we can become a contender again well before 2032. If we do it the right way, could maybe even finish it before Crosby retires.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 16 h 26
Sujet:
Rebuild 2nd Attempt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PenGoater99</b></div><div>Malkin, Letang, Guentzel, and Pettersson are all worth considerably more than that.</div></div>
What do you think they'd get in return? I think Petterson could potentially get a 1st, but the others I'm not sure
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 15 h 10
Sujet:
VGK whats his price
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>They’ll stay until Sid either retires or decides he want out. The only reason Malkin in particular was resigned was because Sid wanted him back.</div></div>
You might be right. I'm just not 100% sure one way or the other. Could see what your saying being right, but I think they also expected to be contending for longer so just impossible to know what they'd think in this circumstance. For the betterment of the team though I think we absolutely have to start the rebuild.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 14 h 51
Sujet:
VGK whats his price
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>There is nothing to compete for. It’s time to start the long process of rebuilding. Last night was a paradigm shift. Everyone not named Crosby, Malkin, or Letang should be on the market</div></div>
Agreed. In terms of going all in, this is one of the better ACGM I've seen, but I agree 100% it's time to rebuild. We need to stop pushing it off, it's just time. Although I don't think it's a guarantee Crosby Malkin and Letang will want to stay through the rebuild.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 12 h 34
Sujet:
Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tonyhzs</b></div><div>Meh, I just don't see someone giving up a 1st for zero offense.</div></div>
Someone did for Ben Chiarot, and Peterson is way way better than him offensively. He's had a fantastic season
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 12 h 28
Sujet:
Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tonyhzs</b></div><div>What team will make this trade? What team has a cup window open for only another year or 2, has the cap space, and the need for Letang? This is a 35 plus contract with top 2D AAV with 4-5 more years left (depending on when he gets traded). I don't see any potential trade partners, outside maybe Washington, but if they are the only suitor, there isn't much chance a 1st is in play.</div></div>
I'm talking about Marcus Peterson
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 10 h 18
Sujet:
Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tonyhzs</b></div><div>First, that Letang trade is hilarious. Letang, often injured and signed for term and high AAV is almost untradeable and is certainly not worth a 1st, especially from a rebuilding team. Letang will not suddenly end the rebuild, no way Montreal considers this.
Second, Detroit doesn't need either player. Rust is over 30, and Petry 35. This doesn't align with the rebuild timeline, with old players likely to decline as the team is ready to compete. Add 3 million retained on Rust, take back Chiarot, and make it 2 4th round picks, and Detroit accepts.
Finally, you might be right about Pettersson, but I doubt it. 1 goal a year doesn't net you a 1st.</div></div>
If he continues to play at this level next year then he will get a 1st at deadline imo
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 10 h 17
Sujet:
Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>I know it hasn’t been said yet, because all the other ones are pretty terrible too, but that Sabres trade is laughably bad. The first round pick alone is likely a top 10 pick. Guentzel isn’t even the kind of player they should be looking for, scoring goals is no longer their problem.</div></div>
Well Guentzel will get a guaranteed first from someone. That's for sure even if it's not you guys
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 9 h 52
Sujet:
Rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tonyhzs</b></div><div>First, that Letang trade is hilarious. Letang, often injured and signed for term and high AAV is almost untradeable and is certainly not worth a 1st, especially from a rebuilding team. Letang will not suddenly end the rebuild, no way Montreal considers this.
Second, Detroit doesn't need either player. Rust is over 30, and Petry 35. This doesn't align with the rebuild timeline, with old players likely to decline as the team is ready to compete. Add 3 million retained on Rust, take back Chiarot, and make it 2 4th round picks, and Detroit accepts.
Finally, you might be right about Pettersson, but I doubt it. 1 goal a year doesn't net you a 1st.</div></div>
I think someone would pay a 1st for Letang.
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