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Forum: Armchair-GM16 juin 2021 à 19 h 3
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Sujet: Forsberg
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JTrades</b></div><div>https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2021/02/21/exploring-the-prospects-of-a-filip-forsberg-trade-to-toronto/

I actually meant for both sides as it would drastically change the make up and future outlook of each team. What would it take for you to accept?</div></div>

Thanks for sharing that! It's not a blog that I normally read, so it wasn't on my radar. It was an... interesting read.

My two biggest problems with his take are:
1/ The author admits TOR underpaid for Muzzin, and that Forsberg carries more value than Muzzin (I believe the gap is greater than he infers, but comparing forwards and defensemen isn't an exact science), but he doesn't account for either of those in his proposal.

2/ The author acknowledges that NSH would need compensation for retaining salary on Forsberg, but offers Kerfoot as that compensation. Need aside (NSH has too many 3C's as it stands, all on more attractive contracts than Kerfoot's), Adding his salary adds to the burden of retaining on Forsberg - not the other way around. If NSH is going to spend $6M on one player, why would they choose a redundant role player over a the kind of highly skilled star they don't have enough of?

Now your proposal here does have a Liljegren who would be a addition to NSH, and a 2nd, but you're also asking for Jarnkrok, more $ retention, and sending Engvall who doesn't have value to NSH. I guess both your proposal and the one from hot stove are about equal value-wise, but neither is anything close to what NSH would need.

If TOR is hell-bent on trying to acquire Forsberg (no retained salary) without one of Robertson or Sandin being part of the return, I think multiple 1sts would have to be a feature of the package. The Preds aren't going to move Forsberg without giving themselves at least a chance to land a guy of his skill one day. The more salary TOR needs NSH to retain or the more undesirable to NSH contracts they want to include (Kerfoot, Engvall, Vesey, etc), the more that drives the price up. If someone like Kerfoot is worth a 2nd-late 1st as the article suggests, I'd like the Leafs find that trade, then add that return to this offer. I'm not a fan of the "if they don't want this guy, they can just flip him for such and such a return" proposals. I guess I see way too many of them on these boards, but I just find that argument lazy.