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NHL
2 avr. à 16 h 37
Sujet:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #5: The Final Stretch
Extremely disappointing news out of Newfoundland this afternoon with the Growlers ceasing operations. They were an extremely valuable part of Toronto's developmental plans, with quite a few current Leafs having suited up for the Growlers. Sucks for the people of Newfoundland who have lost their only pro team out of nowhere, and also a tremendous loss for the Leafs
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NHL Trades
6 mars à 12 h 59
Sujet:
(OTT/FLA) - Tarasenko for 2024 4th (FLA), 2025 3rd (FLA)
I understand that Ottawa had absolutely no leverage here, but at some point a GM has to establish his credibility and backbone. I'm not one for trying cases in the media, but Staios should have stood pat, and in response to the first question from a reporter after the trade deadline asking for him to comment on why he didn't trade Tarasenko, tell the truth and say "the player refused to waive his NTC and the GM of the only team to which he would go refused to make a good-faith offer for him. I will never deal with that GM ever again." Staois' dignity and reputation are worth more than two thirds.
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NHL Trades
6 mars à 12 h 33
Sujet:
(OTT/FLA) - Tarasenko for 2024 4th (FLA), 2025 3rd (FLA)
This is laughably bad for the Senators, they couldn't even pry a decent prospect out of Florida. I get that the trade protection on Tarasenkos deal allowed him to dictate where he went, but that doesn't change the fact that this trade is horrible. For crying out loud, Anthony Mantha cost the Knights more than this.
This is highway robbery for the Panthers who add another lethal offensive weapon to their already loaded forward group. At only 2.5m, he is going to be extremely valuable. If they want to buy more, they easily could (granted they don't have the money). This was a masterclass of a trade from Zito and a complete blunder by Staios
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NHL Trades
6 mars à 12 h 35
Sujet:
(OTT/FLA) - Tarasenko for 2024 4th (FLA), 2025 3rd (FLA)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NorthernLeafsFan05</b></div><div>This is laughably bad for the Senators, they couldn't even pry a decent prospect out of Florida. I get that the trade protection on Tarasenkos deal allowed him to dictate where he went, but that doesn't change the fact that this trade is horrible. For crying out loud, Anthony Mantha cost the Knights more than this.
This is highway robbery for the Panthers who add another lethal offensive weapon to their already loaded forward group. At only 2.5m, he is going to be extremely valuable. If they want to buy more, they easily could (granted they don't have the money). This was a masterclass of a trade from Zito and a complete blunder by Staios</div></div>
You can lock the thread, this is all that needs to be said.
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Armchair-GM
21 juin 2023 à 11 h 42
Sujet:
hog wild
SICK!!!!!!!!!
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NHL
30 mars 2023 à 20 h 8
Sujet:
Prospect Discussion Thread #3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>Since you sound familiar with the NCAA, do you think Knies would be able to make an immediate impact on the Leafs? A lot of people have really high expectations for him but I'm thinking he starts on the fourth line or on the Marlies.</div></div>
His all-around game should be NHL-ready enough to skip AHL. But probably starts in bottom-six role. And jumping right into big role for playoff race may be expecting too much. Although I would not be surprised to see him get his chance to be 3rd piece on one of the top lines in more of a puck retrieval role to free up the skill guys off the boards. Stylistically he is probably a bit like Nino Niederreiter. Plays heavier, but can swing it in transition too, but not really an outright power forward who runs through people. If he does turn into top-6 option, it’s probably more in a role like JvR or Pittsburgh-era Patric Hornqvist. Will spend a lot of time in corners and in dirty areas around net while more skilled linemates create chances from more open ice. But also skilled enough where he could come out of the gate like Boldy.
I think by this time next year, he will make a lot of Leafs fans forget about Bunting if he leaves.
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NHL Trades
28 févr. 2023 à 18 h 41
Sujet:
(NSH/EDM) - Ekholm and 6th for Barrie, Schaefer, 1st and 4th
This trade doesn't involve TOR, what's going on here?
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NHL Trades
30 janv. 2023 à 19 h 39
Sujet:
(VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canucks123</b></div><div>your off the rocker</div></div>
You're*
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Site Discussion
26 janv. 2023 à 18 h 7
Sujet:
Who is the most overvalued player in ACGM
Boone Jenner
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Armchair-GM
13 déc. 2022 à 14 h 43
Sujet:
Top 6 LW and top 4 D
Not only are you overpaying for Klingberg, but if you ever actually watched him play defense in the Leafs sweater with 1st pairing usage there's a 76% chance you would have a stroke within his first period of play for the team. He'd make Rielly look like Larry Robinson.
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NHL
24 nov. 2022 à 12 h 57
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #5: Montreal’s youngster wonders
<div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Statement from Maple Leafs President and Alternate Governor Brendan Shanahan on the passing of Börje Salming: <a href="https://t.co/zguKOyVLmM" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">pic.twitter.com/zguKOyVLmM</a></p>— Toronto Maple Leafs (<a href="/users/MapleLeafs" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@MapleLeafs</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/MapleLeafs/status/1595838350464016385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">November 24, 2022</a></blockquote>
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Brutal, RIP to a legend
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 nov. 2022 à 13 h 38
Sujet:
What do these players have in commom
Something
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NHL
13 oct. 2022 à 16 h 0
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #2: Electric Boogaloo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT ISSSSSSSSS
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Wow what a great time
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NHL
9 oct. 2022 à 22 h 32
Sujet:
2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #2: Electric Boogaloo
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>Its becoming more and more apparent that this type of behavior is less and less out of the ordinary. From the youth to professional levels in all aspects of the game. It's not just Cole, its a kids on the national teams as well. You don't have two sexual assault funds if this isn't some abnormal thing.
I don't think it needs to be said but I clearly don't <em>actually</em> believe <em>every</em> hockey player is a terrible person because of their profession, but the culture they've been raised in clearly toxic and when these accusations come out, them and their teammates deserve absolutely no benefit of the doubt in the court of public opinion in regards to their innocence. Real change and progress isn't going to happen unless the players start making it aware of the gross actions of their teammates. Time to start putting pressure on the people where it matters.
If this continues as it is and we keep having former hockey players come on this forum and act like all is well, maybe it's time for me to put more time into my other hobbies.</div></div>
To further expand on these very poignant points, the Chicago Blackhawks covered up the sexual assault OF A TEAMMATE because winning was more important. It's not just women trying to get a bag from someone more fortunate. It's coaches. It's hazing. It's the silence from teammates and other players in the league. Racial slurs are still being thrown around haphazardly in youth hockey. Overpriveleged boys are still inappropriately leveraging their positions of "power" (popularity is worth its weight in gold during Jr. and Sr. High) on girls that can't say no due to incapacitation or fear. I'd even go as far as to wager that there are female hockey players and coaches who are just as awful, but because of how seriously the system refuses to take these reports, they don't make headlines.
Ignorance doesn't make this go away. It just means someone suffers silently. Just because you never saw your friends do it doesn't mean it can't happen. The world is a big place and the extents of our childhoods represent such a small portion of what actually goes on throughout North America.
I'm getting very tired of reiterating this point but this is a topic to be handled with the utmost respect. I don't agree with <a href="/users/mondo" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@mondo</a>'s guns-ablazing initial takes and really with he'd lead with the thought-out stuff first (and leave it at that). I'm equally disgusted by immediate claims of guilt as I am innocence based on the grounds of "but their Twitter account is only a month old". Everyone on this forum is capable of having adult conversations - I've seen it - so keep it civil.
Hockey is a bad place right now. But it needs to be. Its a great sport but the pain the community is going through is so very vital to ensuring that the sport remains as excellent to us as when we first laced up our skates or went to our first game. Hockey is for everyone, and if there are people within this community who are actively trying to take it away from others based on race, religion, orientation, or use their positions within hockey to bring harm onto others, then we as a community need to seriously step back and reevaluate what it is we truly love about the sport. Is it the game itself or the people we've been lead to believe are hockey themselves? Think about that for a bit.
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NHL Signings
6 oct. 2022 à 17 h 40
Sujet:
Montreal Canadiens signed Logan Mailloux (3 Years / $902,500 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>He was everywhere around veterans of the team this summer, this signing isn't a surprise to me. By signing him the Canadiens are blowing away the dark cloud over his head so he can now focus on playing hockey and not thinking whether or not he's part of a team's future. I guess he's proven to the team he's worthy of it and the team faces little to no risks considering he's only starting his D+2 season.</div></div>
I mean is a dark cloud removed simply by signing him? I don't think so. I think based on what we know right now, If there is something we fans don't know, than obviously that changes things but, there was very little to gain from signing him now. If they already knew they were going to sign him, then they are signing him based on what exactly? The 16 games he's played as a junior thus far in his career? They gain more by simply telling him they'll sign him in a year and waiting till next year to officially sign him. That way he gets the confirmation AND the added time to do "X".
The simple truth is regardless of what opinion anyone has of his off ice situation, his on ice results haven't warranted a contract yet. We're not talking about the next Cale Makar here. If Mailloux had a Makar like repertoire, you could at least begrudgingly (or not) appreciate why they would want to offer him a contract right now. He doesn't, not even close. So why not take the extra time to see him progress in a full season and continue to watch him from a far like they were already doing?
The thing that annoys me is that, if they took that extra time to evaluate him and lets just say he sucks and or gets injured again and they decide alright we won't sign him, they would have received a 2nd round pick in 2023/24 as compensation for not coming to terms with a former 1st round pick on an ELC. At least from a hockey ops perpsective, they've hedged their bet a little. Considering Mailloux was taken with the 31st pick, it basically was already a 2nd round pick anyway. If that happened, they would have gotten themselves out of a contract, got a compensatory pick to replace him, gained brownie points with the people who automatically dislike him by not resigning him, let time pass to potentially let negative public opinion die down on him a little, etc etc etc....What did they gain now? Mailloux feels a bit better about his contract future despite not actually earning it yet? Like I said, if he plays well in London this year, just sign him next year but at least you have something to base that opinion on that ppl can understand.
There is very little upside to signing him right now. There is actually tons of upside to waiting till next year to make that decision. Strictly from a risk management perspective, it makes more sense to wait to sign him too.
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NHL Signings
5 oct. 2022 à 18 h 27
Sujet:
Montreal Canadiens signed Logan Mailloux (3 Years / $902,500 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>OK. "Dirtbags shouldn't have jobs". Good talk.</div></div>
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Armchair-GM
4 sept. 2022 à 12 h 1
Sujet:
Top 20 centers currently
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>How tf can you have Crosby at #6? he's at least 5th above Crosby</div></div>
I disagree heavily
Crosby shouldn’t be above Crosby
Forum:
NHL
15 août 2022 à 11 h 27
Sujet:
Analytics are ruining your brains
Hockey analysis has come a long way compared to just 5 years ago. The data is better, more research is done, people are understanding how to contextualize better, and we have more now to consume than ever. If you think about it, the on-ice ideas that are emphasized by those in the analytics sphere are essentially the same as what old heads have been preaching for decades.
Getting pucks on net = increasing your shot attempts
Get to the dangerous areas = improving your shot quality, which ties into expected goals
Net-front battles = prevent the opposition from taking those high xG shots and prevent your goalie from being screened
Creating/preventing odd-man rushes = rush chances are shown to be of higher quality than chances created on the cycle or forecheck
...and so on and so forth.
I guarantee you that 90-95% of the findings from analytics spheres align with the general consensus. The problem most people have are with the edge cases, which they then use to dismiss the entirety of analytics. The on-ice arguements are essentially the same, albeit the wordings differ. Most everyone will agree that today's game is far different than the game from even a decade ago. It's a possession-based game, physicality is emphasized less, etc.
A lot of the polarization comes from how off-ice/locker room effects come into play. It's pretty clear that guys like Ryan Reaves are not valuable to the modern game, in terms of on-ice impact; he plays very limited minutes and the team does not control play when he is on the ice. The arguments for Reaves state that he provides a morale boost to his teammates, he's a locker room guy, etc. The problem with that is how can we even know that's the case when we're not around the team and we don't know what's going on behind the scenes, other than the canned statements we hear in interviews? I'm sure that most, if not all, teams have guys that are good in the room, so as long as there aren't guys that are a detriment to team morale, I don't see the value in having a guy that also plays poorly on the ice.
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Armchair-GM
11 août 2022 à 10 h 29
Sujet:
What would Patty Kane and Bertuzzi cost
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ToneCapone420</b></div><div>LOL Im hoping Canada figures their **** out by the time the season starts i know of buddies that got over the border and back unvaxxed without having to test i dont really know what the rules are anymore</div></div>
You should get smarter friends
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NHL
26 juill. 2022 à 14 h 54
Sujet:
Team Canada Scandal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MikeKeenanHatesMe</b></div><div>Show me one solution he gave in his rant? All he did was question and question. What do you people really want? Is it hard to be honest? Because people who want to solve problems don’t just ask a load of questions to the people who are trying to solve the problems and actually coming up with a plan.
Hockey Canada has started a plan and all I’m seeing from him and many of you on social media is whining. And now to you, what is “We should be demanding a complete overturn. A top-to-bottom reconstruction of the policies and processes that keep those in and around hockey safe. Anything less is insufficient” supposed to mean? As usual you said a lot but like the fine folks on Twitter all I see is a lot complaining. What is a complete overturn? What is a “top to bottom reconstruction of policies and procedures”?
Why is the plan that was released yesterday not an acceptable starting point? Because they stepped up and put together a line of attack in writing and all I see from the social media armchair “influencer” types is complaining to get themselves noticed.</div></div>
Do everyday people - specifically everyday people who criticize this action plan - also need to be those responsible for the solutions to this problem?
I personally believe that this isn't up to any one individual to solve: voices from Parliament, Sport Canada, and those within hockey but not internal to Hockey Canada are going to need to collaborate to find that solution. Allow me to clarify: what I do know in total absolution that the entire <em>administrative</em> entity of Hockey Canada needs to be sent packing. From the head honcho to the lowly beancounter. The cover-ups have existed for far too long (and supposedly in quantity: remember, at <strong>least</strong> one per year) to trust anyone who has been at the helm to enact change.
Akin to how people should vote in order to affect political change, I fully believe we need outcry from the masses to affect necessary change to Hockey Canada. Whatever trust had been built between the organization and the Nation is lost, why "trust the process" in the hands of bureaucrats? Also, why operate on divisive language? At its core, this case and any like it should not need to be politicized. Sexual assault in every form is wrong, plain and simple. This is not a liberal issue. It is not a conservative issue. Public outcry should be expected. Furthermore, social media offers a platform where people can get that point across. Mailing an MP is likely just as effective but one will spread awareness, one does not.
Bluntly, the plan Hockey Canada has released thus far is insufficient. Consider the Swiss Cheese model that the Alberta oilsands relies so heavily upon: for every layer of protection or every control in place, <em>something</em> is bound to slip through the cracks. In context of this model and in specific highlight of that Twitter thread, there remain <strong>many</strong> holes to prevent further instances of abuse outright.
I take issue when the focus on what remains important is lost. The slander of your teammates or other hockey players caught in the whirlwind is not even a tertiary concern of this case. The kids that may be affected by the outcomes of this case and what remains of Hockey Canada is an issue for step #800; we're on step #3. What matters first-and-foremost is that crimes have likely been committed and one of the most prominent hockey organizations in Canada has essentially been sponsoring these assaults via hush money. Names are unfortunately going to be needlessly drug through miles of mud by the populous. I understand the personal difficulties associated with cases like these but ultimately those innocent will be cleared if/when a guilty verdict is reached and those responsible are held accountable. On this forum at least, the entire moderation team and I are doing our damnedest to ensure that such speculation and slander is kept off these forums. This is not the place for baseless accusations.
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NHL
22 juill. 2022 à 23 h 50
Sujet:
Team Canada Scandal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldHabsFan61</b></div><div>Ok so ruining hockey in this country does what exactly? Does it make any alleged victim not a victim anymore? Does it change what happened? Please tell me why we punish innocent people more than those involved in cover ups? A kid playing hockey right now for Canada (male or female) SHOULD NOT be punished for whatever happened in 2018 or 2003. It’s utterly outrageous that people want to punish kids now and in the future for what? What is gained? Nothing in the past changes. The only thing that changes is now this country has ruined its national sport for god knows how long… a decade or decades??
Canadians sure do love to self deprecate. We seem to love to loathe. We’ve always been a kind people who like to apologize, but what has happened in the last 20 or so years to this country is beyond my 61 years of comprehension. Your entire thought process does not help a single victim. It only makes different kinds of victims. Punish the people who were involved in the past coverups. If criminal proceedings follow this then let’s go to court but this sick idea of punishing the innocent has to be stopped. And I know you don’t care if an old guy never watches Team Canada again and neither do all these “do gooders” in our media with your mentality about this, but I’m sick for the kids today and tomorrow who will probably pay a bigger price for the past than those who were involved.</div></div>
How does accountability ruin hockey in a country quite literally foaming-at-the-mouth mad for the sport?
A key component of this that you're either failing to recognize or electing to ignore is that unless Hockey Canada is stripped down to stud, even outright replaced, all the kind of lip service you desire does is play musical chairs with an institution with a bad ignoring consent habit. What assurances are there preventing "Hockey Canada 2.0" from becoming just as cruel, uncaring, and vile as its predecessor? A fundamental change has to occur and that change has to be grassroots. The entire framework of Hockey Canada has led us to this very moment. It is wholly rotten. Tip to tail.
I look to other, actually-serious-about-societal-change leagues, such as the NBA where entire teams will sit out games in response to injustices. Sports are the reward of a fully-functional society. The most effective means of forcing change as an athlete is the refusal to participate until that change is made. Their million-dollar contracts and sponsors enable this. Any decent Canadian child playing through the Hockey Canada system should be actively trying to abstain from any events until this scandal is fully resolved. Why would a member of one of our elite women's teams want to wear the banner of an organization that cares not if young men drunkenly assault them so long as they believe money makes the problem disappear? How could the parents of vulnerable children want their daughters and sons to play for such a morally-bankrupt organization?
You think you're making a point and that you have the best interests of others at heart. The exact opposite is in fact true. I look to your usage of the word groupthink (let me guess, <em>liberal</em> groupthink, yeah?) or how you insist kids missing out on a few international tournaments are the true victims in this case. Have you no genuine empathy for the victims of these sexual assaults or are you so firmly entrenched as a product of your time that you cannot see this as anything other than "boys will be boys"? Human decency never needs to be politicized. I truly fail to see why you've attempted to do so here.
Canada, the children you so very much fret about, and the sport are truly better off with a complete reevaluation of what kind of organization should oversee our beloved sport. If it takes one year, ten years, or twenty. People will always matter more than a game. Shame on you for ignoring that.
Forum:
NHL
22 juill. 2022 à 23 h 18
Sujet:
Team Canada Scandal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldHabsFan61</b></div><div>If we are banned from international hockey I will never watch an international hockey game again and it will be the end of Canadian hockey at a national team level. Punishing kids who are playing hockey right now for the actions of past and present adults is beyond disgusting and has no place even being mentioned as a possibility. Likewise we need a presumption of innocence until we have facts about what happened regarding former or current players. The bordering on slanderous comments from some people about these players is dangerous groupthink and hive mentality. It needs to be shut down</div></div>
I would be lying if I said I was shocked it took us to six posts for someone to make this about themselves in a completely irrelevant context.
Removing Hockey Canada from international events has far less to do with punishing the kids of today and tomorrow than it does punishing a state-funded organization that's maintained at least a solid 15-year stretch of sexual abuse cover-ups. Firing and blacklisting officials and members of Hockey Canada is mere lip service. What inspires genuine change? When Sheldon Kennedy was abused and spoke up, we said never again. When Dan Carcillo was abused and spoke up, we said never again. When Akim Aliu was abused and spoke up, we said never again. When Kyle Beach was abused and spoke up, we said never again.
If the report of "at least one per year" is remotely accurate, then I believe it vile that your primary concern regarding this scandal is that Canada may not be represented in IIHF-sanctioned events and not that lives have likely been destroyed by the inhuman actions of boys that think themselves entitled to whatever they please and the subsequent slush-fund enabled cover-ups from the body that oversees hockey at the highest level in Canada. While a settlement is not a legal admission of guilt, you would expect such a prominent organization to at least contest a charge as libel if there truly was no fault. Context is king here. The moderation team here has done as much as they've can - often on no notice as the story unfolds - to minimize rampant speculation. There shall be no internet sleuths here.
I doubt the world nor the victims of these abuses are bothered at all if you abstain from watching international play should Hockey Canada find itself slapped with a ban. Hockey Canada should crumble and if the IIHF decided to ban Canada from any sanctioned events until that happens, I think the sport is a better place for it. These are unforgivable actions. It is morally bankrupt to allow an entity like Hockey Canada to continue existing in the wake of the pending investigations. The registration fees that my parents paid, you may have paid, your neighbours, your family, your friends, any Canadian has paid to put their children through this sport of ours has been silently enabling unspeakable acts of violence. At what point does human decency start to take precedence over the "sanctity" of the sport? At what point do the human beings on the receiving end of these atrocities start to matter more than a two-week tournament over the Christmas holidays?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juill. 2022 à 15 h 45
Sujet:
chaos trade
This seems pretty fair for both sides.
Forum:
NHL Signings
14 juill. 2022 à 18 h 56
Sujet:
Washington Capitals signed Dylan Strome (1 Year / $3,500,000 AAV)
he does not have the passion that unites us all
Forum:
NHL Signings
13 juill. 2022 à 12 h 5
Sujet:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Ian Cole (1 Year / $3,000,000 AAV)
He can chase a different bunch of reporters now. Great signing!
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