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Forum: NHL Trades8 juill. 2022 à 9 h 38
Sujet: (MTL/CHI) - 2022 1st round pick (NYI) + 2022 3rd round pick for Dach
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sammy_daws1997</b></div><div>I dont really get this trade. If MTL truly thought Wright and Slaf were close for the 1OA spot (as most reports say), why were they not sprinting to trade for 4OA with Seattle instead of landing Dach? Based on most draft value charts, 13OA + 26OA + 66OA should be enough to get 4OA. Even if Seattle wanted more, if MTL was in fact really high on Wright then they should have had no issue throwing in someone like Josh Anderson..

Obviously it would depend on if Seattle was willing to make this trade. Maybe Seattle had wright as the 1OA pick and treated his value as such..

I just dont think Dach will be the 2C that MTL is hoping he will be.</div></div>


That’s originally what I thought was happening. I was screaming at the TV watching Gary announce it. If MTL somehow acquired 4th overall, that may have been the greatest GM masterclass I have ever seen…
Forum: NHL Signings7 juill. 2022 à 15 h 2
Sujet: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Kris Letang (6 Years / $6,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tmclean64</b></div><div>Interesting.. I wonder if this type of contract will result in a change of rules for all 35+ contracts regarding LTIR. Clearly they are circumventing the cap to lower the aav with years 4-6. Call me a salty Canucks fan but I dont see how this is much different from what the Canucks did with Luongo.</div></div>

It’s a fair point. I guess we’ll have to see by the next CBA. The difference I see is that Letang genuinely would have to be “injured” to be placed on LTIR. As I’ve said many times in this thread given his history, it’s very possible

Luongo obviously just decided he no longer wanted to play.

I guess if the league wanted to enforce some sort of rule to prevent this sort of thing I think it would be rather difficult. I think it’s unfair to ban LTIR for players signing over 35 and I don’t think that’ll happen. Can the league prove there was “Ill intent” when signing this contract? I think it’s very difficult to.

I do think this deal is a bit of “legal” circumvention
Forum: NHL Signings7 juill. 2022 à 14 h 38
Sujet: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Kris Letang (6 Years / $6,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>And SO WHAT if he's still playing in 5 or 6 years? Crosby might be gone, Malkin will definitely be gone, other big-ticket guys might be gone, and the cap will have been raised significantly. His cap hit won't be terrible. The idea of paying out $36.6 million over 6 years is much better than $34 million over the next four. Most people on this site don't understand the concept of the "present value" of money -- i.e., that the value of a dollar today is more than a dollar next year, and a $$$$load more than a dollar in 6 years. Such people think that $8 million for 4 years would be a fine deal, but $4 million for 8 years is horrible. Astounding.</div></div>

That’s an excellent point as well. And Pens in the later years of the contract will likely need to hit the cap floor regardless. If Letang is somehow playing, they’ll be a bottom feeder team who could use his leadership.

Pens will remain competitive as long sid is playing. Once he’s gone, they’ll be full tank SZN, which lines up with the later years of Letang’s deal. I see no real risk
Forum: NHL Signings7 juill. 2022 à 14 h 28
Sujet: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Kris Letang (6 Years / $6,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>You are literally saying that the contract is good because he will get injured and it will work out.

That is cheering for injuries. There isn't an argument otherwise. Enough of your ****. Grow up</div></div>

God you are insufferable. I’m not actively cheering for injuries. I’m stating that given his history it’s likely inevitable. I love Letang and I’m thrilled to have him back.

I’m just calling a spade a spade. He won’t finish this deal. I’m sure he’s very aware of that as well. Playing a professional sport in the best league in the world at 41 is very difficult, especially given his history. Move along pal. Find somebody else to troll
Forum: NHL Signings7 juill. 2022 à 13 h 58
Sujet: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Kris Letang (6 Years / $6,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>If Letang has to retire due to injury the league should have Pittsburgh keep the entire 6.1 million on their books instead of letting them use LITR. Especially considering it's a 35+ contract.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SnakeDelilah</b></div><div>very bold of you to assume that the LTIR loophole won't be plugged up in the next CBA</div></div>


And that’s your opinion. But as the rules stand right now, God forbid Letang has some sort of freak injury next season and is no longer physically able to play, they would be able to LTIR the deal.

Obviously I don’t anticipate him entering LTIR anytime soon. Potentially year 4/5/6 depending on many factors. Regardless, I just don’t see a world where we plays to 41.
Forum: NHL Signings7 juill. 2022 à 13 h 36
Sujet: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Kris Letang (6 Years / $6,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ritzy</b></div><div>Oh boy. 6.1M until he's 41, that's wild.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>You'd have to be on drugs to think this was a good idea. What are you doing hextal?????

Term was the most important part of the negotiation here, not aav</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>This is going to age very badly.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fullblowncaniac90</b></div><div>a little less AAV than i expected but wow that term is BRUTAL</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheresAlwaysNextYear</b></div><div>Way too much term. He’s 35. Would’ve been excellent 5 years ago</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>That's like Vlasic bad.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>Adding onto this point: if this contract was signed with the intention of him not playing out the full six years (ie going on LITR and becoming a trading asset), that sounds a lot like cap circumvention.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nf9</b></div><div>That term…</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HonestHockeyNYI</b></div><div>This contract is like J.R never left the Pens.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil</b></div><div>Penguins: How much term do you want?

Letang:
<img class="for_img" src="https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/031/727/cover10.jpg" alt="cover10.jpg"></div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PraVin26</b></div><div>That definitely is a contract</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>weirfanno1</b></div><div>Yikes the performance decrease will happen and that cap hit till he is 41 even yikes. This is one of those buyout contracts down the road. And the next GM of the Penguins scratches his head to the previous GM....


YIKES!</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BluesFan81</b></div><div>That's way too much term holy....</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mr_z</b></div><div>hahahah hope the Pens fans crying that he'd only sign for 4+ over $8m are happier with this anchor lolol</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stones6160</b></div><div>Did Hextall not learn that giving a Dman a boatload of Money until they are like 40 doesn’t work, like Suter, Weber, Heck even Brent Seabrook and Duncan Keith, I don’t get it</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mcdeeznuts</b></div><div>The NExt Zdeno CHara</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BlackwoodForVezina</b></div><div>6 years???</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nqutilus</b></div><div>The AAV would be fine if it were like 1 or 2 years, but 6 years? My god…</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Doshee</b></div><div>This
this is honestly just the worst contract I've seen the pens sign in a long time
Why 6?? 1-3 years would be great, anything more gets into the realm of anchor, why 6!?
Have fun with this contract in 5, hell, 3 years</div></div>



These comments are exactly why I don’t use this site anymore besides the GM game. But I needed a good laugh and I definitely came to the right place.

This contract is absolutely brilliant. Do you really think for a second that Kris Letang given his injury history will play out the entirety of the contract? Absolutely not. He will be sent on LTIR like the Weber / hosss deals towards the end. The contract kept the AAV ridiculously low for the initial years of the deal, and in the “ugly” years of the contract, he will be on LTIR.