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Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. 2023 à 14 h 3
Sujet: bring me more kyle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeautifulIdiot</b></div><div>would disagree on the Holl Schenn front because Schenn has a stanley cup pedigree, is more physical, and is a bit better all round but it isnt enough to make that much of a difference</div></div>

I'll politely disagree, and here's why:

-You say "Stanley Cup Pedigree", I say "He played in just 19 out of the 45 playoff games in those two cup runs, averaging just over 10 minutes per game". He's also played in 31 playoff games going into what will be his 15th NHL season this year.
-You say "More Physical", and I say "Schenn hits more because his team rarely has the puck when he's on the ice." Ever notice how the vast majority of players who lead the league in hits play on teams or lines that struggle to keep possession?
-You say "Is a bit better all around", and I say "Luke Schenn is 5th in ATOI for a team that desperately needs a RD, whereas Holl plays over 21 minutes a night on a team that is actually quite strong defensively".

I'm not a Leafs fan, but I take Holl over Schenn every day of the week.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. 2023 à 13 h 17
Sujet: bring me more kyle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>leafs_and_devils</b></div><div>agreed. lateral trades at best giving up useful assets needlessly</div></div>

I *sort of* get the Lafferty love...he's been decent on a really bad team...but my assumption here is that the group of Leafs fans who don't like Holl/Kerfoot would be shocked at how there's relatively no imporvement by shipping them out for players that are, at best, lateral moves.

I don't know...I'd figure out a way to do a 2nd, or some equivalent since y'all don't have any of those, to get Lafferty and move on with my life. People still think Domi is "gritty", when he's actually not. Kerfoot has over twice as many hits as him this year, and is by far the safer player to put out there on the 3rd line when it comes to having someone play some semblence of 2 way hockey.
Forum: Armchair-GM27 janv. 2023 à 16 h 26
Sujet: strengthening
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>Sharks fans know that Holtz has a high ceiling, but it's also clear he has hasn't been able to do much of anything at the NHL level. NJ fans seem to assume Holtz is a guaranteed top 6 player. Much like Laf and Kakko, they have time to figure it out and have a high ceiling but the sample size is getting bigger and their production is stagnant.

You can keep him if you value him that highly but if he doesn't take that next step, you could be stuck with a Kratzov situation. That dude has zero value now, but was seen with as high, if not higher, ceiling than Holtz two years ago. My god, is New York bad a developing high level forward prospects.

Also, I'm not sure what good copy and pasting his draft year scouting reports does. It's more important to see how he's progressed since then.</div></div>

Holtz just turned 21 the other day.
At same age, to the day,
- Holtz: 27 GP, 3 goals, 3 assists
- Meier: 36 GP, 3 goals, 3 assists

And Holtz has 2.5 years on ELC while Meier had 1.5 years.

We are in no rush. Goal-scorers are worth their weight in gold.
Forum: Armchair-GM27 janv. 2023 à 14 h 54
Sujet: strengthening
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>Hughes and Nemec would be the second best prospect in our system for sure, but I'd say Holtz is about on par with Bordeleau and Bords has looked much better at the NHL level than Holtz (granted in very limited time there) and he's a center which is pretty damn valuable.</div></div>

Hughes, Nemec are more valuable than any SJS prospects, both are top-5 guys.
Holtz and Eklund are close, both around #11-20 tier.
Mukhamadullin, Casey, Gritsyuk not far behind them in #20-50 range.

Probably something like....

<em>Luke Hughes
Nemec</em>

<strong>Eklund</strong>
<em>Holtz</em>

<em>Mukhamadullin
Casey</em>
<em>Gritsyuk</em>

<strong>Bordeleau</strong>
<strong>Bysted</strong>
<em>Filmon</em>
<em>Zetterlund</em>
<em>Foote </em>
<strong>Lund</strong>
<em>Walsh</em>
<strong>Havelid</strong>
<em>Vilen</em>
<strong>Robins</strong>
<em>Thompson
Clarke</em>
<strong>Coe</strong>

(Mercer would be between Nemec and Eklund)
Forum: Armchair-GM2 mars 2022 à 8 h 4
Sujet: need an upgrade everywhere
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>You didn't present any information. All you did was have a tantrum about your prospect, then undermine Crouse as if he's not at least the same caliber of player as Kerfoot (excluding the intangibles he brings).

I find it hilarious how every casual fan leafs thinks I'm a "leafs troll" because they cant see the forest for the trees. I don't really care if you don't want to trade him or not but don't act like he's the next Gretzky either. Same thing happened with Robertson a couple years ago</div></div>

I never once suggested he's the next Gretzky or had any tantrum, I just stated the fact that the leafs won't be including who is likely their top prospect (who's value is increasing as the year progresses) in a package for anything less then a top 4 D or a Top 6 LW with term on their contract. "Crouse" is not a top 6 player on a contending team, he may be in Arizona, but not on the majority of contenders, not even on the leafs who are weak at LW. However, I do like the type of game he plays, the leafs could use some of that, but if they are going to include Knies in a deal, it will be for someone with a higher career point total of 25 (yes I am aware he will pass that this season) and not just because they have other "intangibles".

To suggest hes on the level of Kerfoot and looking at their career numbers, that is another stretch as well, you seem to like to make those. Kerfoot brings some intangibles to the table as well, as you suggest Crouse does, plus has 174% more career points then Crouse in two less career games played. Since you think they are comparable, do you think hypothetically that Kerfoot would be worth Knies or a prospect of similar caliber from another team? I would say that is a big stretch as well, and most people on this site would roast a leaf fan who overvalued Kerfoot like that, and I would argue Crouse is not near that level at the moment, maybe he will get there, as he is three years younger then Kerfoot.

Suggesting someone is a casual fan because you think you are a "superior hockey fan" and "they can't see the forest for the trees" because they do not agree with you is a troll move, so I stand by my assumption. I think I have included plenty of information in my posts, but you just do not like the information, and dismiss it as a "tantrum". I could of also pointed out some grammatical errors in your latest post as well, but I am not that petty, this is a hockey discussion after all. Have a great day.
Forum: Armchair-GM14 déc. 2021 à 12 h 38
Sujet: Maf and kubalik to the oilers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeterChiarelli</b></div><div>The 2022 1st is a meaningful piece, all I'm asking is if there are auxiliary pieces Edmonton has, preferably in the form of futures, that could pull this deal off. I'm also curious as to why Lavoie is a non-starter if you could elaborate on that.</div></div>

These late 1st rounders are nothing more than a bag of magic beans with at best a 33% chance of becoming a NHL player; let alone a real impact NHL player. Oilers should readily give up a late first for a big upgrade in net for the playoffs. They aren't going to go far with Koskinen in net and despite early season performance suggesting otherwise, I think it's pretty clear now Koskinen is not a cup winning goalie.

As for the Hawks, they should be rebuilding right now and the plan by the former GM Bowman to not only start 2 years too late to rebuild but then to abandon the plan was foolish. Therefore, the Hawks have no use for Flowers and should sell to the highest bidder and there will be teams that would like him either as their #1 or about the best insurance policy you can get at the TDL for a run at the cup as a 1B (think Toronto in that case). I personally don't see the value in a late first and think those picks are highly overrated by fans not familiar with the fact that statistically late 1st rounders have less then a 33% chance to develop into a bonafide NHL player. I think the Hawks, depending on the market, should be asking for a top prospect while willingly giving up Kubalik or Strome as part of that package, Kubs obviously having more value but both being players that can light it up in the right situation.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 nov. 2021 à 23 h 1
Sujet: Heres why they need to have that talk with Toews and Kane
I agree and disagree at the same time.

I think it depends on how the rest of the season goes. I think there is potential to tank, sell off Murphy, Kubalik, and whoever else you can for some picks and prospects. Let Debrincat Dach and jones lead the way to the new age. Until Commesso comes into his own and we have a stellar young goalie again, we really arent going anywhere and we can tank for a few years to build up some nice core pieces. But, I will also play devils advocate here. There really is potential to transition this group into a winner. It will take some luck, for sure. Lets say we win the lottery this year and get Wright or Savoie. Theres instantly a piece that can step into the lineup in the next year or two and make an impact on a low cost contract. There are also some impact defensemen to add in this years FA (think Hampus Lindholm) to bolster our dcorps assuming De haan leaves. Lets say everything goes right and lankinen has a good year and fleury likes his time in chicago and doesnt want to leave. So then, you have a potential frame of
Debrincat-Dach-Kane
Kubalik-Toews-Reichel
Hagel-Strome-Wright
Kurashev-Entwistle-Hardman
Lindholm-Jones
McCabe-Murphy
C Jones-Kalynuk
Lank/Fleury

That really doesnt look that bad, does it? At full strenght, assuming the youngsters keep improving, this really does look like a decent roster. Now, you cant rely on pure luck, so thats where selling for multiple picks and prospects comes in, but a GM coming in has a tough decision to make. Do you want to be known for trading away Kane and Toews? Personally, I think we can do a reset without trading Toews/Kane, assuming they even would waive. Kubalik and Murphy can definitely fetch some decent returns, our goaltending has been bad enough this year to hold us down without a couple key members, and you worry about more decisions after you figure out whether you have a draft pick in 2022 or not. I think a LOT of weight is held on whether we get a top 2 pick or not
Forum: Armchair-GM17 nov. 2021 à 6 h 48
Sujet: next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Sorry bud, this makes little sense. Ritchie at 2.4m is untradeable..."anywhere" doesn't cut it.
Why does Nashville take on an extra 3m for a back up goalie?
Leafs lose big on that Chicago trade. Johnson isn't worth 3.5m, Nylander might not be an NHLer, and you had so little cap, you never even signed Strome. Just keep the superior Kerfoot and the other assets.
Joey Anderson and Kristians Rubins NHLers?</div></div>

I am not so sure Ritchie is untradeable. He's young enough and with enough track record to still be enticing for some people. Look at Gudbranson, how many times has that guy been given more money than 2.5. I would wager there are a couple teams that would take a flyer on gaining a big body winger. Worst case it would be a move him with a mid round pick for a lesser pick scenario.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 nov. 2021 à 16 h 43
Sujet: hawks
The hawks would probably do that. This probably favors the Hawks more immediately, but could definitely reverse in favor very easily. I personally think the Hawks should be looking for a top 6 RW before they look at another LW. But Kerfoot would still be a nice addition and Kral seems pretty promising. The hawks have too many floaters and not enough people in solidified roles. So this helps them solidify the LW more and get rid of some redundancies.

As for what the Leafs would be recieving, I feel like the Hawks don't have the proper personnel to compliment and utilize Johnson properly but he can absolutely still be a successful and productive player in the NHL if he were. Alex Nylander is more technically skilled than his brother and if he can get things going in the NHL, will be a very promising player. Strome is kind of the same. He has a lot of upside (probably more than Kerfoot) that either hasn't been utilized properly, hasn't quite blossomed at the NHL level yet, or (more likely) a combination of both. Most of the upside of what the Leafs would be receiving is completely speculative at this point. And I think if they really want to be buyers and go for a cup this year, there are probably better options for them. Maybe not options with as much long term certainty considering their cap situation. But better options for winning right now.