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Forum: Armchair-GM15 févr. à 13 h 50
Sujet: Reversing all the horrible moves Jarmo Kekalainen made as GM of the CBJs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AG_sweden</b></div><div>I'm not surprised he got the boot.
He isn't the worst GM of all time or anything, but he is just bad.

But to be fair, nobody wants to stay and play there either so what can you do?</div></div>

FWIW, the "no one wants to stay" narrative has been fueled less by disdain for the organization, and more for <a href="https://www.nbcsports.com/nhl/news/montreal-canadiens-sign-josh-anderson-to-massive-7-year-38-5-million-contract-2020-nhl-free-agency" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">wanting</a> to <a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2842368-report-sergei-bobrovsky-panthers-agree-to-7-year-70m-contract" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">avoid</a> burying <a href="https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10080521-ryan-johansen-traded-to-avalanche-predators-will-pay-50-of-2-year-16m-contract" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">the team</a> with <a href="https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nhl/predators/2023/06/30/matt-duchene-contract-nashville-predators-buyout-barry-trotz/70362793007/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">really</a> <a href="https://theathletic.com/4690343/2023/07/26/nhl-worst-contracts-jones-parayko-huberdeau/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">bad contracts.</a> I actually think he didn't get enough credit for avoiding those landmines. Gudbranson is also overpaid, but <a href="https://www.1stohiobattery.com/columbus-blue-jackets-analysis/2024/02/8591/blue-jackets-defenseman-erik-gudbranson-bouncing-back-on-defense-in-2023-24" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">he is strangely bouncing back.</a>

He did a lot to build the team up to what it was during the Torts run, including the fantastic tri-fecta of <a href="https://thehockeywriters.com/blue-jackets-artemi-panarin-trade-revisited/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">absolute</a> fleecings <a href="https://dawindycity.com/2020/10/18/chicago-blackhawks-lost-brandon-saad-trades/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">of</a> <a href="https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/seth_jones_to_blackhawks_considered_one_of_nhls_worst_recent_trade_fails/s1_13132_39088939" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">CHI.</a>

Drafts are, idk...kind of a crap shoot. Unless we are talking about a GM going <a href="https://sports.yahoo.com/columbus-blue-jackets-drafted-anze-kopitar-nhl-alternate-history-212458021.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">full mutiny on their draft-board/scouting department,</a> hindisight is always 20/20. Lest we forget <a href="https://thehockeywriters.com/2016-nhl-entry-draft-top-10-where-are-they-now/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">the Dubois draft</a> and subsequent dragging he got. The expansion draft hurt, but I'd be curious for someone to point out to me where in 2017 any draftniks foresaw Karlsson going from a 25-point 3C/4C to scoring 43 goals on a team <a href="https://thehockeynews.com/news/thn-s-2017-18-season-preview-vegas-golden-knights1" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">absolutely everyone agreed was going to make it to the Finals,</a> led by top-line center Vadim Shipachyov. Maybe we find out one day that Jason Robertson was Jarmo's #1 choice the subsequent draft, but it just as easily and reasonably could have been Klim Koston. We still ended up with Tex, which aint nothing of a consolation prize.

He inherited a bad team in 2013 that <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_Columbus_Blue_Jackets_season" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">quickly overperformed,</a> and put a damper on any true rebuild hopes. <a href="https://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/06/chicago-blackhawks-trade-brandon-saad-to-columbus-blue-jackets" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">He was aggressive</a> to improve that team, and it quickly fell on its face before Torts came in and turned things around for a few years.

I'll give you credit on the Bjorkstrand trade. I still feel there could have been a way to make it work.

He wasn't bad. Wasn't great either, but it was time.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 janv. à 11 h 46
Sujet: Jenner - What will it take
I'm assuming this discussion pops up again because of Dreger's report, where he <em>explicitly stated</em> Jenner isn't available. Welcome to the never-ending discussion.

The long: he's a captain on a sweetheart deal with term who's producing well with a unique, valuable skillset. The keys to his value are:
1) he's a decent 2C, great 3C, which every playoff team needs
2) He's on an amazing deal that every playoff team could accommodate
3) His great deal has term, so he's not a rental, which every playoff team with aspirations of competing beyond just this year loves.
4) His current team signed him to said sweetheart deal specifically to keep him around, and has no desire to move him.

Each of those bump his value up since you have to convince Columbus to move him, then beat out every other contender's offer. It's not like he's a depressed asset we have to move that only has a handful of landing spots. The argument is never "Jenner is one of the best centers in the league, pay us for him!", it's "Jenner has a huge market and fills a need for tons of teams, and that spikes his value regardless of his (still good) production, that's what you're overpaying for."

He's a Horvat style player who wins faceoffs like Lindholm and scores goals like Pavelski, but you can have him for this year and the next two at current Evan Bouchard money if you make a good enough offer to convince Columbus it's worth moving their unicorn.

You'll see people argue anything ranging from "expiring 3C UFA with 15 points" offers to "star 1C for the rest of time" demands. I think in reality, the Horvat deal + ??? is a decent comp: 1st, roster player/pick, good prospect. If Columbus deals him, we need a legitimate shot at replacing him soon coming back, so center prospects are preferred. Because of the deal, roster player/pick -&gt; 2nd-equivalent, and good prospect -&gt; top prospect.

So, IMO, it takes: 1st, 2nd, A+/top prospect to land him.

For Pittsburgh specifically, I don't think there's an A+ prospect in the organization, and we <em>definitely </em>don't want to see him in Pittsburgh ever (main rival in-division), so the price goes up more...so 2024 2nd, 2025 1st, and 2026 1st, all unprotected.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 janv. à 11 h 58
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