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Forum: NHL Signings11 avr. à 16 h 38
Sujet: Vegas Golden Knights signed Noah Hanifin (8 Years / $7,350,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>This contract is a pretty good example on how tax advantage is much smaller than most people think given his offer in CGY was for 7.5. Like yeah it totally exists but it isnt really anything to get antsy about and claim it to be a massive factor. 0.15M is roughly the gap.</div></div>

This doesn't make sense. The tax advantage is substantial and much more than $150k.

The difference for Hanifin each year making $7.35M in Vegas vs. Calgary is $640k take home:

Vegas (taxed at 38.9% from https://www.talent.com/tax-calculator?salary=7350000&amp;from=year&amp;region=Nevada): $7.35M -&gt; $4.49M take home
Calgary (taxed at 47.6% from https://ca.talent.com/tax-calculator?salary=7350000&amp;from=year&amp;region=Alberta): $7.35M -&gt; $3.85M take home

If Hanafin stays all 8 years in Vegas, the total take home difference between signing in Vegas vs. Calgary is $5.12M. This would mean Hanafin would have to play over 9 years in Calgary to take home the same earnings as he does in 8 years in Vegas.
Forum: NHL Signings2 avr. à 15 h 3
Sujet: Toronto Maple Leafs signed Jacob Quillan (2 Years / $875,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>this is a solid pick up, question is where does he play. They can't just rifle this kid down to the AHL. He's 22, it's the play me or release me time so TOR has to find space for him sooner rather than later.
I'm kind of surprised he chose TOR but then again the prospect pool isn't great so he probably thinks easier path.</div></div>

Sure they can what makes him so good that he can immediately take a spot in the NHL

Like most guys like him its go to the NHL learn and see how their game translates to the next level

He's an RFA after his deal so sure he can complain but does Brad have to give in no. Its up to him to earn a spot

If kid comes in with an entitled mindset reality gonna catch up quick with him
Forum: NHL Signings2 avr. à 15 h 36
Sujet: Toronto Maple Leafs signed Jacob Quillan (2 Years / $875,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>I don't think you really get it.
This isn't a 20 year old coming for the CHL. He'll be 23 next year.
You aren't going to develop a player that age for 2 years in the AHL or what have you.
It's more likely they bust on, or flame out.
Look at Donato. He signed at 21, got thrown in that year and was given like 1/2 a year the next year before BOS moved on.
Another example would be Kerfoot signed at 23 played that year for COL.
Or Aston Reese, signed 23 1/2 year in the AHL and up to the NHL.
This is the typical track.

This is just how things go for UFA NCCA guys. They want their playing time and that plays a part in where they will sign.
On top of it, teams are less interested in investing to develop guys who are already going to be 23 that they didn't draft.
They got limited space and are more willing to give it to 20 year olds who they did draft.
Because at 23 the expectation is a player should have jumped by now. They simply don't have 2 years or leeway.
So as much as you think they can send the kid down to the AHL and let him develop that's probably not how this is going to work for either of them.

At 23 you either do or do not have the skill set. Sitting in the AHL for another year isn't going to change that. By 23 you should have already worked on your skating and your strengthening.
The two things that hold younger players back.
It's not about entitled mindset, it's about reality of the kids ability.

They are either going to play him, or they are not. If they don't it's best for both to move on. Because they probably aren't going to if they didn't.</div></div>

Again that means jack all

These guys have 0 leverage

Like every other player they have to earn it

Going from NCAA to AHL at 22 vs. CHL, OHL, etc at 20 means nothing

Everyone has to earn a spot no matter the age or draft rank (except if your 1OA pick) thats how it works

As said before If kid comes in with an entitled mindset reality gonna catch up quick with him

We have seen it time and time again with some of these guys. You want it got to earn it
Forum: NHL Signings2 avr. à 15 h 53
Sujet: Toronto Maple Leafs signed Jacob Quillan (2 Years / $875,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>this is where you are wrong.
A. the player does have leverage. They get to choose where they sign and they take their best path to the NHL level. Which is why players sign where they will get playing time.
B. you fail to understand. Teams aren't making long term investments into the development of guys who are already 23. I have given you 3 recent examples of player who made the jump. It's a typical story. Name one player came into the AHL from the NCAA in year 23 and developed 1-2 years before making the jump?

It's not just about the player. It's the team as well. There are huge differences coming in from CHL as opposed to NCAA. There are expectations both the player and the team have.
You seem to want to put it on the player. That's just arrogant on your part.
If you put 4 draft picks every year on your AHL team, you got 16 guys, you add in the few mandatory vets to help them grow and become a pro, and your AHL team is filled out.
They aren't planning to develop NCAA guys for more than a year. Most likely they are making the jump 1st year or they aren't.</div></div>

Seem to not understand this guy had 0 leverage

2 years ago Mikheyev asked for a trade did the GM do it no why 0 leverage

Just because they ask does the GM or coach have to give it no lul

Robertson has reportedly asked for trades is he still here yes. They dont got to meet these guys demands it aint the NBA nor do they have command like higher names like Matthews, McDavid, etc.


TOR dont have to worry about long development as there core is pretty much set. Look at McMann and how many years it took him to develop into finally a bonified NHLer

He's 27 now and started with the ECHL Growlers. Did he complain no he worked hard and then in the end earned his spot

Again this guys got 0 leverage he can complain and whine but does Brad have to do anything no. He's an RFA at the end of his deal and is under team control
Forum: NHL Signings1 avr. à 21 h 47