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Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 18 h 52
Sujet: Back in the playoffs next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>First, let's dispel the "bad contract" misconception.

Fowler leads the team in time on ice and all Anaheim defensemen in scoring. He's a lifelong Duck and provides leadership and mentoring for the young defensemen (Mintyukov, Zellweger, LaCombe, etc.). As ggha777 says, he has a big cap hit but by no means is he considered to be a bad contract or have negative value. Josh Anderson, on the other hand, is a pure cap dump. You can take them both out of this deal.

Next, let's looks at some statistics, to define our terms:

Trevor Zegras, first 180 games: 49 goals, 90 assists = 139 points, -39
Cole Caufield, first 196 games: 73 goals, 66 assists = 139 points, -43

Without making excuses for this injury-riddled season:

Trevor Zegras, 210 games: 55 goals, 98 assists = 153 points, -41
Cole Caufield, 204 games: 80 goals, 68 assists = 148 points, -39

My point is nothing more than that Trevor Zegras is a good player.

Now let's look at what you've offered here: Farrell, an undersized forward with at best middle-6 potential; Ylonen, 18 months older than Zegras, drafted the year before, with half as many games played and 1/5 the number of points, and waiver-wire fodder; and Barron, who has second-pairing potential at best; plus a late first that duplicates the Edmonton pick and a 2025 first that may become a 2026 pick. What amongst that stew can you confidently argue will even be on the Anaheim roster next season? Or ever? And for all of those possibilities, we should give up a 23-year-old who has two 60-point-plus seasons under his belt already and seems to have made a better recovery from his recent surgery than Cole Caufield, whose historical shooting rate of 14.1% has declined to 8.8% this season?</div></div>

Absolutely, the Ducks should want to get back at least what they give up, I would if I was the Ducks GM or had Zegras on my team. I don't really think the Ducks will move Zegras since they are trying to compete but if they did they should absolutely ask for the other teams best players/picks/prospects cause otherwise why trade him? You don't make trades just for the sake of trading, you make trades to 1. Improve your team 2. Because the player asked for it or 3. Because of the teams cap situation. The last 2 don't apply to the Ducks so the only way they are trading Zegras is to improve the team, I think that's what a lot of fans that make these types of trades do not understand
Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 16 h 36
Sujet: Back in the playoffs next season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>Ylonen value = 0

Farrell value = extremely low. Don't get me wrong, I believe in the kid, but his floor is an AHL player. There is an argument to be made that he might never establish himself in the NHL.

Barron value = 2nd round pick. He's at least a project-able bottom pair defender, with a shot at middle 6 upside. I think he's worth more, but the value does not hold up in a trade because he's never played a full season.

It's one thing if Anaheim were starting a rebuild. But they are a few years in and just like the Habs they are itching to make the playoffs. Do a couple of 17-32 picks get Zegras? Maybe, but personally if he were on my team, I would hold out for better.</div></div>

I agree, this isn't the type of move Anaheim would be making, it would be a 1st in the 6-10 range + at least Beck or Mesar, it really depends where in that range the 1st falls and even then the Ducks are trying to move from rebuild to WC contender next year, prospects and picks don't help them do that
Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 12 h 54
Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 12 h 46
Sujet: Matheson Guhle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>what am I talking about?
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/m/mathemi01.html
you go look at those 5v5 numbers and figure it out.
Even your points thing is just wrong.
11G 17A in pit
4G 17A in MTL this year
Career highs......

His 5v5 play is going down hill there and those are the most important numbers.
We rehabbed him... you are sinking him :tearsofjoy</div></div>

I never said his career highs were at 5 vs 5, I said he had career highs in TOI, G, A, P and Blks, perhaps you should understand the distinction before commenting back. Also I literally explained that his play hasn't dropped off, it's that he is playing with less experienced guys like Guhle, Harris, Barron, Struble and Xhekaj, their lack of situational experience causes them to make mistakes that lead to extended D zone and shortened O zone times. As these young guys gain experience they won't get hemmed in and will be able to extend their O zone time, meaning Matheson's numbers will also increase. It is much easier for Matheson to produce at 5 vs 5 when his partner is Letang and he knows he has an experienced guy over there to cover than having a young guy on the other side and worrying about the guy on the other side. Montreal hasn't "ruined" Matheson, we have asked him to take on more of a leadership role than he had in Pittsburgh which will just make him an even better layer in the long run.
Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 10 h 29
Sujet: Matheson Guhle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>I think MTL rushed Guhle.
He needs more time to develop. You really don't know what you have there yet.
As for Matheson I don't know what MTL did. He left PIT an actual competent player whole career turned around...now...he's going down hill fast again.</div></div>

What are you talking about? Matheson is playing the best hockey of his career right now. Career highs in TOI, goals, assists, points and blocked shots, sure his possession metrics have taken a hit but that is expected with a D corps comprised of mostly under 25 full time players who are only in their 2nd or 3rd year in the league, the mistakes from those youngsters will get ironed out and Matheson's possession numbers will get better as a result as well.
Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 9 h 35
Sujet: Matheson Guhle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyfan1986</b></div><div>Let's be honest. Montreal is NOT in a cup window. Not ready to truly compete for 2-3 years(basiccaly when Reinbacher is ready to play in the NHL). So, they are able to move 10-year vets. I do agree that Savard is wanting to stay. Matheson I am not sure. He may want to win a cup before "settling in Montreal on a second stint".</div></div>

Matheson is signed until 2025-26 (2 more seasons) if Habs are entering their cup window in 2-3 years then that aligns exactly with Matheson's extention and he may just want to ride out the 2024-25 season in Montreal knowing that the 2025-26 or 2026-27 season is when they will be contending. That I why I said the team might not be willing to move Matheson or Savard and my look at extending both. If you move them at the 2025 tdl then in 2025-26 or 2026-26 you have to go out and find some veteran replacements that might not gel with the team as well as these two do. If you extend Savard for 3 years that takes the contract to the end of 2027-28 (1-2 years into their cup window) and Matheson 4 or 5 then you lock up the vet leadership that you know will gel with the rest of the team. I know it blocks some of the younger guys but the team likely values Matheson and Savard differently than the fans do. Savard is the easier of the two to lock in since we only have Reinbacher and Mailloux who can push him out and that would only push him down to 3RD, if Konyushkov is coming over and does push for a spot, it won't be until the 2026-27 season and Savard could be traded or possibly retire by then
Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 8 h 2
Sujet: Matheson Guhle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyfan1986</b></div><div>I would like Hutson and Reinbacher in Laval next year. Or have Savard and Hutson on the 3rd pairing.
Matheson and Mailloux(raise his value and gameplay for the NHL).
I see it more like Matheson or Savard will be moved(or both) at the TDL 2025. Unless somehow Habs are in the playoff picture.</div></div>

The problem is, teams won't move 10 year vet leaders when they are entering their cup window. Savard <strong>may</strong> be moved but I kind of doubt it, I also expect that both will be extended (Matheson 3-5 years, Savard 1-3 years). I think being 100% honest that the fact that both are also Quebecois makes it even more unlikely either will be moved and neither will be resigned. Right or wrong, that's how I see it from the teams perspective