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Forum: Armchair-GM23 févr. à 18 h 5
Sujet: Chicago TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Onlyfairtrades1</b></div><div>Wrong. Fox made it known he would stay in college one more year and become a UFA and sign with the Rangers in a year so Carolina had no choice but to trade him and got what they could, which was way less than if he didn't put them in a corner. IF....and the most important word here is IF........IF Kane has told Chicago only the Rangers, it's the same. In that IF scenario, Chicago has no leverage and should take whatever Drury offers because it's better than nothing. I am still of the opinion this rumor is BS and the Rangers are NOT trading for Kane.</div></div>

Wrong. Adam Fox was very wishy-washy about if he'd sign in CGY or CAR, and he honestly was a bit underscouted by other teams. Rangers were both smart to see his upside, and lucky that they didn't have to worry about wishy-washy feelings since he was open about wanting to play for the Rangers. Plus, with Fox it is a younger player who you are trading the rights for. Check out this Rangers blog post about how he was non-commital about signing elsewhere before the Rangers acquired him: https://bluelinestation.com/2022/04/30/april-30-new-york-rangers-history-adam-fox-becomes-blueshirt/

Patrick Kane is a proven NHL superstar and Cup winner. And again, Giroux said "I'm going to Florida or I'm not waiving my NTC." You can verify that point here: https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2022/03/21/claude-giroux-arrives-in-florida-time-to-go-to-work/ If Kane says "I'm going to the Rangers or I'm not waiving my NTC" are you seriously saying that Chicago can't get a comparable or better return than CHUCK FLETCHER got for Giroux?
Forum: Armchair-GM23 févr. à 17 h 2
Sujet: Chicago TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>saysthemachine</b></div><div>Jones is an NHL ready player that is going to have a long NHL career. He's just not the type of player this coach wants to play. I wouldn't call him a B prospect.</div></div>

The thing with the idea of "the coach doesn't want to play him" is that it drives down his value and perception. I'm not disagreeing that its because of Gallant he's not playing, but to other NHL GMs and coaches they think "huh, this coach who is relatively highly regarded doesn't think this guy is cut out for NHL minutes." Also, he's played less than 40 NHL games to date. You are again just proclaiming that he will have a long NHL career based on....what? Prospects can and do bust or just don't work all the time. I'm not saying he WILL but that will the counter argument from other GMs. It is very common for us fans to think all our prospects are going to be long time NHLers, and I don't mean to **** on you or anything. But, that is the way the business works. You're also getting PATRICK KANE who is older but has a resume that is going to demand a decent return even if he forces his way to the Rangers. Giroux, a player I love but is not Patrick Kane, got a 1st and a guy similiar to Kravtsov in Tippett and a 3rd. You think Kane is worth the same (I'd say the 3rd and the "B" prospect are the same), but I'm telling you he is going to get a bit more which could be Jones.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 févr. à 16 h 48
Sujet: Chicago TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Onlyfairtrades1</b></div><div>Chicago GM has 3 choices if Kane limits him to just the Rangers...1. trade him to the Rangers for whatever he can get...2. keep him and let him become a free agent and get nothing...and 3. keep him and sign him. If this rumor is true, then Drury has all the leverage, like Gorton with Adam Fox and the Canes, and what happened? There is no reason to give up much in that circumstance. But if Kane will go to other teams like Carolina or Vegas, then the cost will be too high for the Rangers IMO and they are better off chasing a guy like Janeau or Bjugstad or Lafferty.</div></div>

I disagree its not like Fox at all. Its much more like Giroux, as I explained. Fox was an unsigned NCAA player who had already been traded once.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 févr. à 13 h 20
Sujet: viable opponent for vasilevskiy only way id be ok with knies deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EvanderKanesLawyer</b></div><div>A good comparison I like to make is the Horvat deal. While he is a forward (two different positions) you gotta think we could net a similar return. Horvat got a blue chip prospect, a 1st, and a young roster player. Top end player, top end goalie. Different condiments, same sandwich.

If I'm moving a Vezina caliber goalie under a team friendly deal for the next 3 seasons, I'm asking for no less. The deal would have to really entice me to consider moving him.
But like I said, Knies and a 1st is a good conversation starter but it would likely cost more.</div></div>

Absolutely agreed. I would say they need someone who is already proven at the NHL level along with Knies for example, because at the end of the day until he's proven he is still a risk to bust.