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Forum: Armchair-GM6 janv. 2021 à 13 h 59
Sujet: Would this work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bringer_Of_Snow</b></div><div>Thats not even close in the WPG trade. Laine, despite some inconsistent stretches, is an elite goal scorer whos still very young. If he were ever traded, the Jets would need some young, team controlled, top 6 forwards top pairing dmen.

I love Larsson, but he's a bottom pairing PK guy.
Neal is fine, but slightly overpaid and realistically a 3rd/4th line guy at the tail end of his career.
Nygard really doesn't have any value. Has yet to prove he's an NHL regular.
Then two picks that are in likely to fall in the last 1/3 of their respective rounds. Those picks are no where near a sure thing. And likely not having an NHL impact for another 3-5 years IF they turn out.

When you lay it out like this, as early as 2 years, the Jets could have traded Laine and have nothing on their roster to show for it. Laine is way too good for that.

That doesn't even consider the fact that you are dumping tons of salary to the Jets too. This trade is a no brainer for the Oilers, zero risk and all the payoff. Thats why the Jets don't even remotely consider it</div></div>

Elite goal scorer? Goal scorer for sure, but when someone is 3rd in goals on just his own team each of the last two seasons... elite?
Forum: Armchair-GM6 janv. 2021 à 13 h 54
Forum: Armchair-GM5 janv. 2021 à 14 h 18
Sujet: 3 way trade with goaltending fix
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CEO</b></div><div>yours seems more realistic, but Vegas would want a back up goaltender, and I dont think they'd ship a first. How about this:

Vegas:
-Fleury (retaining 500k), whitecloud, 3rd.
+Jensen, Copley

NJ:
-Half of fleury's remaining cap hit (3.25x2)
+Whitecloud, 2nd, Panik

Wash:
-Jensen, Panik, Copley
+Fleury (3.25x2)</div></div>

I can't say that I have an opinion on Whitecloud, so maybe he is more than I give credit for...

You also have a 3rd going from Vegas but a 2nd going to NJ. A 3rd isn't going to get it done. There might be an argument if the retention was 1 year, but it is 2 years. You are not going to get a team to "buy" a 3rd rounder for $6.5M. It cost Toronto a first for Carolina to take $6.25Mx1 cap of Marleau, and technically that overall move was only <strong>$835,000 in actual dollars</strong> for Carolina, yet cost a 1st.

In overall terms, I do not think that adding Coplay hurts the Washington side. I still don't think that they do it, but that's the AGM.
Does Whitecloud+2nd = 1st? I don't know. It's not going to be cheap for free up $7Mx2 though. Fleury is not a starter anymore.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 janv. 2021 à 13 h 14
Sujet: 3 way trade with goaltending fix
The only team that I understand the motivation for is Vegas.

Vegas: Dumps a bad $7Mx2 contract and gets a 2nd and Crawford out of it? Usually you don't gain from dumping a bad contract, not that Crawford's contract is good.
NJ: Just signed Crawford but they are moving him out for the right to pay $2.5Mx2 retention, a 6/7D and a 3G.
Wash: Needs to pay $4.5Mx2 for a backup goalie that they don't want. Plus, for the right to that (still) bad contract they give away a 2nd, Jensen (near dump), Copley.

Using mostly what you have here...
Vegas would send Fleury and the compensation of the retention (1st, or such) to NJ.
NJ would retain the full $3.5M (Caps can't take a $4.5M hit for Fleury, not even a $3.5M hit, but I'm going with your AGM) and send him to Was
Wash would send out Jensen and Panik (for cap reasons, they are over the cap as it is so they can not bring in $3.5M/$4.5M and only send out $2.5M (Coplay is 90% burried))

So...
<strong>Vegas</strong>
- Fleury, 1st
+ Jensen, ($7Mx2 freed cap space)

<strong>NJ</strong>
- $3.5Mx2 cap hit
+ 1st, Panik

<strong>Wash</strong>
- Jensen, Panik
+ Fleury ($3.5Mx2)