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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 15 heures

Sujet: DeBrincat to Nashville

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OkMan</b></div><div>The goalie market is at an all time high in terms of value. Saros is a top 3 goalie in the league. He gonna fetch a sh-t ton, and he doesn’t even need to be traded. It would really have to take an offer like that for it to even be considered</div></div>

C'mon, lol.

The goalie market is not at an all time high, Saros is not a top 3 goalie (Vasi, Sorokin, Shesterkin imo), and Debrincat's value well over Saros'.

Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 2 h 43

Sujet: Cup now or Mcdavid is out

I don't think any team is taking that Campbell contract, unless there's at the very least a 1st coming back.

Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 3 h 34

Sujet: Best Suggestions Ive Seen lately

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Sure. But have you considered the possibility that VAN ownership might not want to pay his bonus? Not saying that is the truth, but it's a possibility.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>Yeah, TMyers post signing bonus shouldn't be that hard to move to AZ. If AZ is on his list...it gets more difficult.</div></div>

Yup, these are both really good points! It's a real wait and see situation honestly, but I think everyone sees Myers moving in some form or another eh

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 17 h 57

Sujet: Best Suggestions Ive Seen lately

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>You guys did just see what it cost LAK, right?</div></div>

They paid a 2nd and Grans to dump Petersen (2x$5) and Walker (1x2.65), and retained 30% of Provorov's contract.

The difference is, those two contracts are actually owed $14.5 million in real cash, and when you minus the ~$5 mil cash they'll be paying Provorov, that's a $9.5 mil real cash dump.

Myers is owed $1 million after the bonus, and a team like Arizona or Anaheim is going to take his contract for a lot less to save on their own cash spending. Fans of both teams have already said they'd take him for a 3rd or a 4th round pick lol.

It's not quite the same, but I get where you're coming from. This just isn't going to happen though.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 17 h 49

Sujet: Cat Out and Hart and Berggren In

I think that Debrincat's asset value has dropped compared to what OTT paid for him, so I think this is a bit much. Replace NYI's 1st with a conditional 2024 1st, top 15 protected.

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 22 h 22

Sujet: What you think canucks fans

I think no, Pearson/Poolman are likely LTIR, and while dumping the rest is nice, it's not worth dropping that many spots.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 22 h 3

Sujet: Who needs a goalie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>He clearly stated 5v5 bc DEMKO sucked on the PK. Colin delia managed to have a positive GSAx on the PK</div></div>

No, the Canucks penalty kill was actually on pace to be the worst all-time when Demko was out.

And that certainly doesn't explain you calling him a liar, using all-situation stats to try and call him out when it wasn't what he was talking about.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 21 h 50

Sujet: Who needs a goalie

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>I don't know what source you're using for GSAx but demko ranked 89th/107 goalies with a -5.7 GSAx (would have been -10 without his inflation against tanking teams) per moneypuck</div></div>

Oh man, this is going to be a little rough. You uhh.. forgot to read.

So, I went to Moneypuck and found the 89th/107 stat, and I found your 0.918 stat. They're all-situations stats, which is *not* what mv was talking about lol. You just skipped the first line in everything he said.....

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div><strong>Demko at 5v5</strong>
20/21: .925 SV%, 6.67 GSAA, 7.89 GSAx
21/22: .933 SV% (3rd best), 26.42 GSAA (1st), 19.81 GSAx (3rd)
22/23: .920 SV%, 4.43 GSAA, 7.14 GSAx
22/23 after return from injury: .930 SV%, 7.72 GSAA, 8.22 GSAx

His numbers this past season are down because of the 15 bad games he played while hurt at the start of the season. He also plays in front of a historically bad PK and one of the worst defenses in the league. He’s a top 6-8 goalie in the league</div></div>

You have to make sure you understand everything someone says.. He clearly stated 5v5 because the Canucks had one of the worst penalty kills of *all time* last season.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 mai à 18 h 19

Sujet: Big trade

This is classic NHL2023 roster, no need for defense just get more fwds.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 mai à 1 h 38

Sujet: version 1812

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>4.5 million dollars for a career high 39 points and atrocious defensive play? Yeah, I’d have to choose the 3rd round pick</div></div>

Didn't you also call career best 40 pt winger who's atrocious defensively, and making 4.15 more valuable too?

Forum: Armchair-GM20 mai à 1 h 6

Sujet: version 1812

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>He is a pretty low end 3C. Canucks are still giving up the 2 most valuable assets in Beau and the 3rd round pick. Dvorak is atrocious defensively and shouldn’t even be a center</div></div>

Beauvillier is a pretty low end middle 6 winger too :P I put really little stock into how he played when on Petey's wing, and much more on the rest of his work. He's not good IMO.

I don't know, I like Dvorak more than his analytics. He plays very difficult minutes, plays them pretty decently, penalty kills, and overall is a solid C. He is *absolutely* more valuable than a 3rd though, cmon, be realistic.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 mai à 1 h 2

Sujet: Adding Stars through FA

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warpbox</b></div><div>What would you give him?</div></div>

If the cap raises a chunk, I could see 4? But I don't think he's worth 4 now, for example.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 mai à 1 h 0

Sujet: Outsiders view

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>draft_em_sign_em_trade_em</b></div><div>Niemela will have a slow development like Liljegren.

Hirvonen probably won't even get past 100 Nhl career games played.</div></div>

Im sure he will, but there was a huge difference between Liljegren and Niemela's pedigree. They are not the same, and it's not even like Lilj is an established impact defenseman right now. It just isn't going to get you Helle.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai à 23 h 47

Sujet: version 1812

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juiceman</b></div><div>Dvorak isn't anything. Beauvillier is literally the best player in that trade</div></div>

While I agree Beauvillier is better, Dvorak is probably more valuable because he's a center.

It's like a middle 6 winger for a 3C. VAN would cause it fills a need from an excess, but I don't know why MTL would do this. Who gives up a 3C for a pretty average middle 6 winger?

Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai à 23 h 39

Sujet: Idk anymore

I just can't imagine Vancouver is interested in that. They'd definitely rather just get Garland out on his own and wait out Myers contract than do a 1st.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai à 23 h 36

Sujet: Adding Stars through FA

5.5 for Matt Roy is actual insanity

Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai à 23 h 33

Sujet: Outsiders view

Definitely not enough to get Hellebuyck. Hirvonen and Niemela are long shot prospects at this point.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai à 14 h 23

Sujet: Hire me Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AlTintin1122</b></div><div>Colorado says no? Are u okay? Girard isn’t good defensively and a liability and he’s small . He’s also playing behind Toews and Byram so a no brainer to move him.</div></div>

Nice assumption that I think they want to keep girard.

My reasoning is, what the hell does COL want with Liljgren, Robertson, or a late 1st?

I absolutely can see them moving Girard, but it won't be for that. It'll almost certainly be in a deal to try and find a 2nd line C.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai à 14 h 21

Sujet: Hire me Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Do they? When they flip Matthews at the deadline they certainly wouldnt get Keller and a 6th OA in return value wise</div></div>

I'm going with the assumption this is for Matthews who has agreed to an extension.

And people can say "Hes not signed so its a rental" but that's literally not how it works, look at Horvat.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai à 14 h 19

Sujet: Hire me Toronto

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hudsonsux</b></div><div>Col sure they can do that deal to a rebuilding team for a D but Calgary?? That’s the 6th overall pick and another first. Great pick to start their rebuild possible elite player with how good this draft is</div></div>

What about Calgary makes you think they have any interest in taking their roster that direction though? They're literally built to try to win now, and they aren't going to make a trade like that at this point.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai à 13 h 45

Sujet: Hire me Toronto

ARI says yes, COL and CGY say no.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mai à 19 h 11

Sujet: Massive draft day swing

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>But that isn't the problem with this trade I'm sure Vancouver would do this in a heartbeat. The problem is getting CBJ to accept it.</div></div>

Maybe, I think CBJ would accept it.

- Miller fits with Gaudreau's timeline, and hes a huge upgrade on Roslovic.

- Demko fixes their goalie situation immediately, and they get to dump a massive anchor.

- Raty is a strong prospect, middle 6 C potential.

All for the cost of moving down 8 spots, and while Carlsson looks to be a stud, they have a massive prospect pool already and will get an impact forward at 11 still.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mai à 16 h 26

Sujet: Massive draft day swing

I don't thiiiink the Canucks should do this. Carlsson is immensely good, but Merzlinkins contract is too much of an anchor, and he is too much of a downgrade. They would be stuck with him for 4 more seasons..

Forum: Armchair-GM8 mai à 19 h 53

Sujet: Torts Gets His Boys

Hard pass on any trade that sends Risto to Vancouver.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 mai à 18 h 30

Sujet: Preds

That Nashville trade is so ridiculous.

Dermott, Kravtsov, and Truscott are basically not worth anything.

So it's basically Boeser for Fabbro, Sissons, 2nd, and 3rd? That's such a crazy overpay.

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