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Forum: Armchair-GM26 nov. 2023 à 21 h 22

Sujet: Go For It

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jeuck75</b></div><div>HORRIBLE for EDM</div></div>

Maybe you missed where I said draft picks going wherever to balance trade. But even as is. Framework is not “horrible”. It’s not the end all of valuations. But the Athletic had Theodore at $9.6M surplus value (and he’s arguably performing better this year). Roy $2.2M surplus. Leon $7M

Forum: Armchair-GM26 nov. 2023 à 21 h 3

Sujet: Go For It

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Theozler</b></div><div>But they don’t need him and Theodore is a top 10-15 d man in the league. It’s about winning not having shiny toys on the ice</div></div>

Ironically I think you’re low on Theodore… and the “shiny toy” was a cute attack on Vegas FO till… well you know it worked lol

Forum: Armchair-GM26 nov. 2023 à 20 h 51

Sujet: Go For It

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Theozler</b></div><div>Wouldn’t do it as Vegas. Why break up arguably the best d group in the league that just won a cup?</div></div>

Ummmm… to acquire one of the top players in the world

Forum: Armchair-GM26 nov. 2023 à 20 h 50

Sujet: Go For It

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin 2023 à 16 h 28

Sujet: Ode to Unrealized Cap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>M0LSON</b></div><div>for that term u could get hometown discount on adin hill contract</div></div>

Agreed. I mostly made it that number to get exactly $17 of cap room lol

Forum: Armchair-GM24 juin 2023 à 16 h 26

Sujet: Ode to Unrealized Cap

Agreed. I mostly made it that number to get exactly $17 of cap room lol

Forum: Armchair-GM14 juin 2023 à 16 h 56

Sujet: Have to re-sign Hill

This makes a ton of sense. The biggest argument to keep Hill around is based on emotion. Prior to his injury, Thompson was the current and future at the position. You could ink another cheap netminder and save much needed cap room.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 juill. 2022 à 20 h 55

Sujet: You Dont Go All-In Then Fold

I’m sure he’d receive a full NTC. I get the sentiment but Vegas is still a prime destination for these players.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 févr. 2022 à 21 h 7

Sujet: Vegas Wtf

A) There’s no chance a Vegas / Fleury reunion is happening

B) Even so, no salary rentention can happen in that trade, it’s against the rules

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2022 à 19 h 59

Sujet: Adding SC Winners

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey247</b></div><div>stephenson is a 3rd or 4th liner on most teams. he's just found a spot in vegas and is playing well. he's worth more to the knights than what teams would get by acquiring him</div></div>

Disagree here. It was thought that he was a product of playing between Stone and Pacioretty, but this year he was a point per game player and carried his lines while they’ve missed many games.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2022 à 16 h 5

Sujet: R u kidding me

Can’t wait to see what they can add with the $2.25 in cap room now also 😄

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2022 à 14 h 33

Sujet: Stone-erovd

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Of course, but you don’t need to get expensive contracts to make yourself go over the cap. There’s a difference of playing fair, and attempting to stay under the cap, and buying guys and purposely making yourself go over for the playoffs. If you shipped some guys out, and get some back I would be totally fine with that.</div></div>

In this scenario, Vegas just lost their star RW for an unknown 😏 length of time. It’s only reasonable they replace him with a likewise star player. That’s just fair. It’s not Vegas’ fault that luck shines and Stone is healthy come May 2nd.

Forum: Armchair-GM10 févr. 2022 à 14 h 23

Sujet: Stone-erovd

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Don’t do what Tampa does… that’s so annoying! If they do this, then I hope they will lose.</div></div>

The number one priority should be player’s health. Stone’s back has caused him problems all year. It’s just a coincidence he needed to be placed on LTIR the moment Eichel and Martinez came off it and that he healed up exactly on game 1 of playoffs. Vegas can’t be blamed for doing what’s best for their player’s well-being. 😏

Forum: Fauteuil - DG9 févr. 2022 à 21 h 45

Sujet: Rebuild

Not entirely sure Vegas would view Toffoli as better than Smith and certainly not at the expense of one of their top prospects. Vegas would be way more likely to just extend Smith at the AAV of Toffoli

Forum: Armchair-GM9 févr. 2022 à 21 h 39

Sujet: Kings For Real

Pssst… you don’t escape cap hell by moving a guy making less than league minimum, then locked in through the 27-28 season on a very team friendly deal

Forum: Armchair-GM9 févr. 2022 à 13 h 37

Sujet: I think its going to be Dadonov

I agree, I think it’ll be Dadonov and Brossoit moved. Though could easily see them nab a guy like Craig Anderson to backup rest of year. I’ll take it a step further and predict Smith does get extended. I know makes little sense but they might rather move on from Roy and even Hague rather than lose Smith. Assuming nothing major changes, Roy is the 4th C, though probably a winger with how Howden has played. I’d rather pay a few million more to have Smith there. I’d also be fine not giving Hague the contract he deserves. Retaining him slides Whitecloud to 3rd pairing. I’d rather have a low paid veteran there and when Alec’s contract is done, I’d assume Cormier is ready.

Forum: Armchair-GM9 févr. 2022 à 13 h 31

Sujet: Hard to see how Dadonov gets moved

Say a non-contender acquires him for basically nothing now, what is he likely worth next trade deadline with retention?

Forum: Armchair-GM8 févr. 2022 à 18 h 25

Sujet: Some moves youve seen others new

Vegas accepts

Forum: Armchair-GM7 févr. 2022 à 22 h 54

Sujet: Trade Deadline

Seen it often where Motte goes to Vegas. Not that’s he’s bad, just doesn’t move the needle at all. Vegas declines.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. 2022 à 20 h 44

Sujet: Vegas idea

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cartersNo1</b></div><div>The idea was Arizona would get marchy a second and third and then give him back retaining 50%.</div></div>

Ahhh, yeah, that’s not allowed. Would need to wait a year to re-obtain a player with salary retention.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. 2022 à 17 h 24

Sujet: vegas

DeBrusk really does nothing for Vegas’ cap crunch.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. 2022 à 13 h 20

Sujet: trade with vegas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>1- Heh. Probably should brace for disappointment.

2- None of those situations even compare to this one. Those were mild, This is DEFCON desperation.

And, uh, getting nothing for the reigning Vezina winner very much equates to having to pay to offload middle six types. Not at all sure why you think that giveaway makes your case.</div></div>

Yes, Fleury was a pure cap move, as were all these mentioned, yes Vegas got nothing, they also did not have to give away anything when the entire league knew they were under the gun. I’m not sure your point here, I implied at worst they would be giving away players this deadline for nothing, that’s way different than them giving a 3rd+ to shed Smith like the post I quoted said.

The other situations were dire as well. Fleury carried a $7M hit, Stastny a $6.5M hit, Eakin a $3.85M hit, Miller a $3.875 hit (multiple years), Schmidt a $5.96M hit (multiple years), Gusev asking for $4.5M when traded. The entire league knew Vegas could not carry any of these and they got assets from every trade except Fleury, in many cases decent assets.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. 2022 à 13 h 2

Sujet: Eddie Olczyk Sell-off

Vegas declines. DeBrincat is awesome and their ask should be high. But Vegas can’t send two prospects that are ~top 50 overall in the NHL, another near NHL ready C prospect, a 1st, a 2nd, and Smith (who Chicago would be able to flip for another 1st+). That’s too steep.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. 2022 à 12 h 56

Sujet: Verbeek SZN

Vegas will not be sending assets just to shed salary. I understand the thinking but at trade deadline, there certainly will be enough interest in whoever they move that it will at minimum mean they won’t need to sell at a loss and likely will receive decent assets.

Don’t forget, they got a 3rd for Reaves while cap crunched. A 4th for Eakin while cap crunched. A 2nd and 3rd for Gusev while cap crunched. A fourth for Stastny while cap crunched. A 3rd for Schmidt while cap crunched. A 2nd for Miller while cap crunched. Roy and a 5th for Haula while cap crunched. And nothing for Fleury while cap crunched and him having a M-NTC and an agent telling front offices he will retire is traded.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. 2022 à 12 h 55

Sujet: trade with vegas

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>You should not be sending any of those pieces to Vegas in that trade. In fact, you should make them give you at least a 3rd to take him.</div></div>

Vegas will not be sending assets just to shed salary. I understand the thinking but at trade deadline, there certainly will be enough interest in whoever they move that it will at minimum mean they won’t need to sell at a loss and likely will receive decent assets.

Don’t forget, they got a 3rd for Reaves while cap crunched. A 4th for Eakin while cap crunched. A 2nd and 3rd for Gusev while cap crunched. A fourth for Stastny while cap crunched. A 3rd for Schmidt while cap crunched. A 2nd for Miller while cap crunched. Roy and a 5th for Haula while cap crunched. And nothing for Fleury while cap crunched and him having a M-NTC and an agent telling front offices he will retire is traded.

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