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Forum: Armchair-GM23 févr. 2019 à 22 h 36
Forum: Armchair-GM23 févr. 2019 à 12 h 5
Forum: Armchair-GM23 févr. 2019 à 11 h 32
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div>So Zucker gets traded and learns how to catch/receive passes, hit the friggin net, and learns how to properly do a wraparound? Nino was always more than a 1-trick pony, he just lost his will to live in MN. Zucker is out there playing the same game every night as he's played the last few seasons. At $2m/yr his flaws were overlooked because he was outproducing/playing his contract, at $5.5m his game gets looked at a lot closer especially when he's not producing.

He's making Pommer money and Pommer was dumped after a 47p and much better all around play. Zucker would need 17p in 21 games to even match Pommer's totals from his last year here.</div></div>

Zucker did all of that last year, he put up 33 goals for crying out loud. Will he do it again? Who knows. I will say this: stats are not everything but Zucker's advanced stats are very good this year and indicate he's largely been unlucky. He's shooting at 8.5%, which is well below his career average of 12%, his PDO is 97.5 which can indicate unluckiness, his CF% is 54.1% which is very good, and his FF% is 54.7%, also very good.

Just look at his heatmap, too.

<img class="for_img" src="https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/teamShotLocOffWi/1819/MIN/zuckeja92" alt="zuckeja92">

<img class="for_img" src="https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/teamShotLocOffWo/1819/MIN/zuckeja92" alt="zuckeja92">

In the offensive zone, we've generated a ton more offense with Zucker on the ice than without him. I'm not that opposed to moving him, but we'd be losing a ton of offense if we do trade him.


One of your main issues with him that you've brought up to me before is that you think he's horrendous in his own zone. Well, the stats indicate otherwise. He has 34 takeaways and 20 giveaways, which is very good.

This heatmap also shows how he hasn't been as bad in his own zone as you often like to hate on him for:

<img class="for_img" src="https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/teamShotLocDefWi/1819/MIN/zuckeja92/" alt="zuckeja92">

<img class="for_img" src="https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/teamShotLocDefWo/1819/MIN/zuckeja92" alt="zuckeja92">

He's no Koivu but this really isn't that bad for an offensive-oriented winger.


I'm going to stand by my original statement: if we move Zucker, he's going to start producing on another team.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. 2019 à 14 h 21
Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. 2019 à 14 h 12
Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. 2019 à 14 h 25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div>I don't see Donato and Greenway being together anytime soon, both are LWs in their 1st pro season. One of them would have to be playing center for it to work.

Staal did nothing to increase his value last night. His PP apple was because of Spurgeon didn't give up on a play that Staal whiffed on. His EN apple was because Donato not giving up on a play. If the Refs had eyes he would have cost the team Parise's goal.

Wild aren't getting a 1st for a guy that has 2p in the last 10 games, isn't willing to waive his NTC, and has been playing like Rask.

Zucker gets moved at the TDL, not Staal. The return for Staal will be too low for the GM/owner to throw in the towel for the season while in the middle of the Playoff picture.</div></div>

Zucker is harder to move due to his term and the fact he's been incredibly underwhelming this year. We'd be selling extremely low on him. 2 points are 2 points. As long as we get a 1st or 2nd + prospect for Staal, I'd be happy. He's not a long-term solution for this team.

Donato is a natural center (he played center throughout college) and he was Greenway's center at the Olympics, so it would work.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>math731</b></div><div>MTL is offering you Ylonen, Fleury and a first for Granlund. Would you like Primeau too instead of one guy in there? I think Granlund would be a hell of a fit for us (with KK)</div></div>

I'd croak if we got that for Granny. They are good pieces but it would take a dynamic talent back if we were to move him (think guys like Tolvanen, Vesalainen, Glass, Necas, etc.). Ylonen and Fleury are solid prospects but they aren't in the same tier as the guys I mentioned.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. 2019 à 14 h 38
Forum: Armchair-GM22 févr. 2019 à 14 h 47
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wabit</b></div><div>Donato is not a NHL center anymore than Granny is. Wasn't Greenway the center in the Olympics?

2p is 2p, correct, just hope no GM/scout watches any tape of the points or any of the last 10 games. None of Staal's past exploits mean much when he's playing as badly as he has been. Whoever gets him is looking at using him for 20 games plus Playoffs; that's it. The last 10 games will weigh heavy on their value of him. Staal has less value than Coyle before he was traded.

Zucker will be a hockey trade, and his value is just going to keep dropping the longer they hold on to him. The 30g season last year will still carry a little weight the rest this year, but won't mean anything after that. He's a killer of puck possession.</div></div>

I thought Donato was a center in the Olympics, but I could be wrong. How do we know that? We haven't seen Donato at center on our team yet. I wouldn't assume he can't play the role just because he slotted at LW in his first game.

I still think there's teams interested in Staal. We may not get a great return for him but I'd rather that than Fenton sitting on his hands and holding on to him only for us to not sign him in free agency.

You are right with Zucker, it will be a hockey trade. But who out there would we trade him for? I know you really like Henrique, but I do not want anything to do with the guy. He's older, slower, and another left-shot center which only exacerbates our current issue of having too many left-shots, too many vets, and too many slow guys. If we move Zucker I hope it's a Coyle-esque trade where we get a very young NHL player as the centerpiece. That's a tough trade to make right now since most teams are just looking for rentals.
Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. 2019 à 20 h 24
Forum: Armchair-GM21 févr. 2019 à 20 h 12