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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 5 heures

Sujet: Pittsburgh 24-25 rebuilt

There is a whole lot of absurd nonsense in this thing. Can tell you first and foremost that I don't think y'all have the assets to entice the Jackets to take on Rakell, and that expecting Blankenburg to both be allowed to walk and to sign for so little is rather unlikely.

Beyond that... every single team you're asking for a 1st from would block your number. And if you want to give Petterson away for so little, then feel free to contact Columbus about him; just don't bother with Rakell.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 8 heures

Sujet: TML 2025

Arguably the closest I've seen to a Jenner-to-TML proposal that <strong>might</strong> actually work for the Jackets. That said, Liljegren is not the kind of blueliner we need (we need defensively-oriented guys) and Robertson (what with his injuries and being a depth scoring winger) basically has no value here. And we need <strong>more</strong> glue guys, not less, so giving up two to get one - even though he's an extremely skilled one - could be an issue. Still, it's a fair try.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 22 heures

Sujet: Major Shake Up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stadel</b></div><div>Jenners a tad overrated. The value is fine probably cause cbj fans love him including the owner but I’d rather gamble on ostlund turning into something</div></div>
Think of it this way. Would you trade Tuch for that package? Jenner is de facto untouchable here for reasons very similar to why Tuch is de facto untouchable there.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 22 heures

Sujet: Chicago Bedards

That Elvis trade definitely works for Columbus; I'd be surprised if Chicago thought it a fit.

Tuch is kind of a non-starter for the Sabres, though; he's in the same "you already know the answer" realm as Jenner is here, for similar reasons.

Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 9 h 52

Sujet: Oilers 24-25

Kane is not needed or wanted in Columbus, so the only return y'all would likely get from us is "pay us to take on your cap dump" level.

Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 9 h 49

Sujet: Lets gooo Habs 2425

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rb1481</b></div><div>Lol Columbus is trying to win? According to who? Haha</div></div>
Take the L and move on, hon. KJ isn't being traded this offseason while he's injured, and we're not moving him for More Futures because we've got plenty of futures depth as is; we need to develop the guys we already have.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 16 h 6

Sujet: fix this mess

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>squashmaple</b></div><div>Other than that trade, this actually isn't bad. You can see OP put at least a little thought into the RFA contracts, which is more than I expect for any non-Jackets fan. But it's hard not to wonder "Jeez, what did we do to you, Caps fan?" about this as a whole.</div></div>
Dumping Gudbranson with retention (a fundamentally unhelpful move) is just more evidence against, and delaying a return on Provorov for another two years doesn't strike me as particularly good either. Grubauer-for-Elvis is a net loss for the Jackets - we spend more money with the same term on an older goalie with a worse buyout and at best similar numbers. The picks for Laine are about the only nice bit.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 15 h 58

Sujet: Rebuilt it

The OP's followup of this with a <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/823919">Jackets AGM that includes a similarly atrocious Boone Jenner trade</a> now has me convinced we're dealing with a troll. There's just no conceivable way someone could legitimately in good faith think of such moves as good deals.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 15 h 56

Sujet: A new path forward

It's not impossible for Gustafsson to be interesting to the Jackets, but not for Marchenko.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 15 h 55

Sujet: fix this mess

So you opted to follow up your <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/823916">prior atrocious attempt at a Jackets trade</a> with a crappy giveaway of Boone Jenner.

I'm now convinced this is a troll.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 15 h 15

Sujet: who says no

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>squashmaple</b></div><div>You're not wrong about the lack of fit, but he's a forward.</div></div>
I confess to being more than a little skeptical in that regard.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 15 h 9

Sujet: who says no

That might be fair for Brannstrom but I can't imagine much interest in him over here. He's not the sort of blueliner we need.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 15 h 9

Sujet: Rebuilt it

What kind of absurd nonsense is that pathetic excuse for a Jackets trade? That wouldn't be considered for anything short of a perrential Vezina contender on a sweetheart deal; expecting Mackenzie Blackwood of all people to carry that kind of value is homerism of the worst possible kind. You should be feeling deeply ashamed for ever even considering posting such garbage.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 11 h 14

Sujet: ERIC TULSKY

I'd rather keep Olivier; I think he's been valuable as a glue guy, and that return is no more than what we paid to get him in the first place. I'd also rather keep Laine around for a possible bounceback. And have no interest in either of those UFAs even though they're intended as press box residents. But otherwise this works pretty well.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 7 h 25

Sujet: Quack like a duck

There's some Jackets fans out there who are convinced Gibson is a better alternative than Elvis. For them, that might be a balanced deal. I'm not one of them, tho, and I think that's a dubious idea for both sides.

Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 7 h 23

Sujet: UPDATES

I'm going to assume the Hayes trade is actually "to anyone who'd take him", because the Jackets wouldn't.

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 22 h 53

Sujet: U C DAVIS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>I’m sure he can bounce back but I don’t think anyone is spending assets equal to a 1st line scorer for him at the moment. 128 games in 3 seasons, a bit of a risk to spend high quality assets on someone like that.</div></div>
Probably not. We don't expect him to be leaving.

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 19 h 44

Sujet: Penguins 2024-25 Season

We'd probably want something slightly nicer or a better fit than Puustinen back in that trade - maybe a mid pick - but otherwise that's a basis for Laine I'd strongly consider, given how much we need good defensive blueliners.

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 19 h 40

Sujet: U C DAVIS

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>I mean if you can get him for cheap why not roll the dice</div></div>
You can't. The Jackets do not have any cap pressures, so if you want him we need to be getting back value commesurate with that of a top-line scorer. And we don't need depth pieces, so it'd have to be one or two quality assets. Because otherwise we're far better off just keeping him and hoping for a bounceback post-PAP.

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 15 h 58

Sujet: How much would they cost

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MrAicrow2009</b></div><div>No?</div></div>
For all practical purposes, correct. His value to the Jackets is so far in excess of the trade market value for an equivalent player that it would be folly to even try.

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 14 h 52

Sujet: How much would they cost

You asked for Boone. You already know the answer.

Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 8 h 7

Sujet: Make room for young players

Hayes is not the sort of veteran center Columbus needs or wants. We need glue guys who are good mentors and Hayes' reputation in that regard is dubious at best.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 22 h 1

Sujet: Keller

We're in no hurry to give up Kuraly as we need more glue guys; <strong>if</strong> he's traded it'd be at the deadline for picks, not during the offseason.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 22 h 0

Sujet: Attempt at some upgrades

Works for the Jackets if it works for Ottawa.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Claesson4Norris</b></div><div>Boqvist is terrible, absolutely unusable defensively, and doesn't do anything offensively either. You'd be hard pressed to find a player who is a worse fit for what Ottawa needs.</div></div>
Don't be absurd. He's got a lot of weaknesses defensively to be sure (though he's looked better when he's played this year), but offensively he's been a really good contributor, especially on the power play. His biggest issue so far for the Jackets has been injuries.

Whether or not that skillset is actually one Ottawa needs is unknown to me, but you're selling him short.

Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 21 h 57

Sujet: Georgiev to the Yetis

The 3rd in that Wood trade is going to the wrong team. Either that or you need to retain quite a bit and even then it's unlikely 'cause Wood isn't good enough to justify that kind of term for the Jackets.

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