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Forum: Armchair-GM2 mars à 13 h 8

Sujet: Staois 23 Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Terrifiedofeveryone</b></div><div>The Rangers had Tarasenko on their reserve list with retention within the last year, Seravelli recently confirmed the rule. The Rangers can only acquire his full contract.</div></div>
Cool. Good to know. Thanks

Forum: Armchair-GM2 mars à 12 h 45

Sujet: Staois 23 Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Terrifiedofeveryone</b></div><div>The Rangers can’t acquire Tarasenko in a deal with salary retention.</div></div>

Is this true? I thought the rule was if a team trades a player, they can’t trade back for him with retention. I wasn’t aware it was true if a player left as a FA.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG27 févr. à 12 h 33

Sujet: Seeking Help in Offense

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tolyak86</b></div><div>Are they able to get a 3rd party to retain??? I've understood it as only the Pens can't retain.</div></div>

From what I’ve seen recently, no. Essentially they can’t get him at all with retention.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG25 févr. à 10 h 58

Sujet: Seeking Help in Offense

Vegas cannot trade back for Reilly Smith with retention for a full calendar year.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 févr. à 12 h 9

Sujet: The March Makeover

Vegas doesn’t really have Eichel’s money. The talk is he may be back before the Buffalo game on 3/2. It was just a procedural move to activate Theodore without having to send any forwards back to AHL for now

Forum: Armchair-GM4 juill. 2023 à 12 h 34

Sujet: Do you or do you not

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jco5ta5</b></div><div>Can you explain insurance to me? Is it simply that insurance pays his salary or a portion?

I think if you’re under the cap and can put him on LTIR at beginning of season then keep your assets.</div></div>

The advantage of being under and then trading him, is you accumulate cap space all season long. So you can makes deals at the deadline and lower those costs because you don’t need retention.

This roster was a full 23 man roster. If I could trade Lehner, and then send Pachal to AHL, that puts them 1.5 million under with 22 guys.

That 1.5 on opening day, is probably worth like 4-5 million on TDL depending on season injuries.

Forum: Armchair-GM4 juill. 2023 à 11 h 33

Sujet: Do you or do you not

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Snowhawk18</b></div><div>If I’m the Hawks, I would want to make sure Lehner’s contract is covered by insurance, otherwise the deal is not worth the cash payout.</div></div>

Great point on insurance. Not sure Myself. But I think Vegas is actually in an OK position because it really just comes down to if they want to pay the cost of moving. He can sit on LTIR for them if they want, and they could easily send Pachal through waivers and sign a true 4th C, up to 1.5 million or so then if they wanted.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 juill. 2022 à 23 h 21

Sujet: Eichel

Honestly the value is pretty good on the Eichel trade. Vegas let him get the surgery, played him to get the rust off per se, and ate a season of the salary, so I can see why the value would be a little higher right now.

The flaws I see in the deal, I don’t see Vegas wanting to retain even a million for 4 years in a near flat cap timespan.

Also, I heard a rumor Patrick is still struggling from his last injury (probable concussion) and may start on LTIR if not while year again if no improvement.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 juill. 2022 à 22 h 33

Sujet: Engvall is Back

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Do_Bap</b></div><div>Anderson's also waiver exempt 😅</div></div>
I looked before I quoted originally. It doesn’t have him listed as exempt next season.

And if he is. Disregard everything I said them lol

Forum: Armchair-GM17 juill. 2022 à 22 h 29

Sujet: Engvall is Back

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Do_Bap</b></div><div>I'll up you Clifford + Hirvonen</div></div>
Personally I am in for that. Because Hirvonen is still waiver exempt, I would do that deal.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 juill. 2022 à 22 h 10

Sujet: Engvall is Back

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Do_Bap</b></div><div>Vegas is in cap hell like no other before, and two solid depth pieces is better than one. They had to give Pacioretty away for literally nothing. They need to go cheap on the Bottom 6 to stay under.</div></div>

And Kolessar is cheaper then taking on those 2 guys. The bottom six is basically filled with Carrier, Howden, Kolessar, Amadio, Leschyshyn, Rondbjerg etc. Plus I think they try a Brisson or Morozov in the bottom 6 this year.

Like I said, I’m very ok trading Kolessar. But it has to be a cap savings. And taking on 2 guys doesn’t make sense for them.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 juill. 2022 à 21 h 39

Sujet: Engvall is Back

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Do_Bap</b></div><div>You mean a two time cup champ, and serviceable depth forward, each at league minimum?

Sure more valuable than not affording Kolesar.</div></div>

Not against trading Kolessar but if He only cost 1 million for two years, it’s cheaper for Vegas to keep him then two guys that equal 1.5 million. And as cap crunched as Vegas is, the 500k savings is worth keeping Kolessar instead

Forum: Armchair-GM12 juill. 2022 à 20 h 9

Sujet: pretenders or contenders

Vegas says no.

Ferlund does nothing for Vegas now that they have Weber.

If someone signs Roy to an offer sheet, it will probably be at least at the 3rd round level if not more. No sense in giving up a 4th rounder for anything in this deal.

Even with the small retention Dickinson makes more then Carrier, and for a team counting Pennies that won’t make too much sense

Forum: Armchair-GM12 juill. 2022 à 11 h 46

Sujet: What now Jimmy and Al

No way Vegas gives Whitecloud up just to swap Broissoit for Ferlund.

1. They don’t really need anymore LTIR money because of Weber

2. Broissoit and/or Lehner May start the season on LTIR themselves, really making Ferlund useless for that

Forum: Armchair-GM5 juill. 2022 à 11 h 56

Sujet: Roster tweaks

That trade will never be accepted by Vegas. They would get more for letting him sign an offer sheet they don’t match.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2022 à 17 h 35

Sujet: Tear it all down

I think that’s a yes from Vegas.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2022 à 17 h 8

Sujet: Ideal Offseason - HURRICANES

Save the little cash this year and just offer Vegas the 3rd. Then you can have Howden at 900k-1 million this year

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2022 à 16 h 28

Sujet: VGK attempt with Smith

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>Why is Hague not offer-sheet eligible? He meets all of these conditions:

<em>1. Have at least one NHL contract expire.
2. Have played at least 80 NHL games if a forward or defenseman, or 28 NHL games if a goalie (applies only for players who have 3 years of NHL service).
3. Be younger than 27 on July 1 of that year.
4. Be without a contract for the upcoming season.
5. Be tendered a qualifying offer by the current team by June 25 or the Monday after that year's NHL Entry Draft (whichever is later)</em>

But maybe I'm missing something...</div></div>

Looks like I made the error. I was sure I read it somewhere, but it may have been because technically he has been qualified yet. (But we all know that will happen)

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2022 à 15 h 54

Sujet: VGK attempt with Smith

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>Meant for it to be a 2 year deal for Hague actually-- I'll update that

But honestly, with Roy and Hauge-- I think they're pretty ripe for an OS, especially Hague. So I could see VGK paying more to make sure they can retain them. And I thought about $3m for Roy as well but just went a little higher to keep him from signing an OS. I could see anywhere from $2.5-3.5m for Roy on a 2-5 year deal, and $1.5-4.25m for Hague on a 1-6 year deal. But VGK will try to keep them as low as they can for now.</div></div>

Hague can’t be offer sheeted yet. So no worries there. The CBA really hurts younger guys. Vegas has basically complete control. All he can actually do is holdout, but even that needs to end before 12/1. So Vegas can wait him out.

Roy is absolutely the more interesting one, I think if the right package was offered for Roy they would listen, so an offer sheet May not completely scare them. Depends on what they think is the right package.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2022 à 15 h 44

Sujet: VGK attempt with Smith

Trades are good. The Lehner one is interesting. Not sure value, but Vegas probably says yes.

If Hague signs a one year deal, it is for basically for 900k as he is a RFA without arbitration rights. And is too young for an offer sheet. That number is probably a 4-6 year type contract similar to Whitecloud.

I think that’s a little high on Roy, I look as Stephenson as his match and max. And he signed 2.75x4 when he was an RFA still. That’s where I believe Roy comes in at as well

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2022 à 14 h 15

Sujet: Vegas 2023

I think this is spot on.

Forum: Armchair-GM23 juin 2022 à 11 h 33

Sujet: Whos gone

I don’t think it’s Karlsson if Smith is re-signing.

I would look at Martinez as possibly the one to go.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2021 à 23 h 32

Sujet: Vegas Golden Knights Trade Template

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhroblak</b></div><div>Gotcha. I kinda just assumed that Carrier would cost more by default considering Brett Howden fetched a 4th from Vegas. I originally didn't take Vegas's perspective into consideration about moving his contract.

I'll keep the trade at a 4th, but instead of Tarmo Reunanen I'll send an AHL winger</div></div>

Yeah. That probably makes more sense. That’s essentially what they took for Stastny last off season. A 4th and an AHL Dman.

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2021 à 23 h 21

Sujet: realistic IMO

Vegas isn’t giving a 3rd with Fluery to only get a 7th. His cap hit may be 7million, but the reigning Vezina winner won’t be just tossed aside.

(Also Vegas most likely won’t be dealing him at all)

Forum: Armchair-GM26 juill. 2021 à 23 h 19

Sujet: Vegas Golden Knights Trade Template

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhroblak</b></div><div>Oh wait I’m overpaying? I always thought Carrier was much better than Reaves, and the absolute most I’d pay for Reaves is a 5th. Am I missing something about Carrier?</div></div>

He’s good. But he can’t put his scoring touch to get higher then the 4th line.

I just think because he truly is a bottom 3 type player, he won’t fetch more then a 4th rounder. Especially with 3 years left on his deal.

And I think Vegas would take a 4th, to clear his cap. Similar to selling low on Schmidt last season. The cap space would be the key part

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