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Armchair-GM
9 mars à 14 h 31
Sujet:
Hmmm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheeDjeeEem</b></div><div>It's almost like CBJ are the worst team in the conference and Philly are a playoff team
And that sample size is literally half his teammates mins
Peeke is a good shot blocker, big and physical, exactly what you need on a playoff 3rd pair playing 13 mins a night with a competent partner and forward group and exactly useless on a team like CBJ where no one is moving the puck outside of Werenski
Walker moves the puck better but not well, has played with better teammates this year, did not crack LA's playoff roster last year, and isn't a piece that COL really needed to over pay for in a deal with RyJo and a '25 1st rounder
The Peeke trade for a <strong>2027 </strong>3rd, it's only 1 example of a better trade, let's do the Tanev deal for a 2nd + DD prospect at less than half the cap hit of Walker... Get Tanev for COL '26 1st + Malinski? is so much better
Get Tanev at 1.125M and [you dont <strong>have </strong>to] dump RyJo to another team now or in the summer or next year, so many cheaper options
Calgary sold Hanifin at a 1.237M cap hit for a '26 1st and '24 2nd ffs lol
Terrible value. Bad trade.</div></div>
Even last year Peeke was one of the worst PKers on the team so it's not a sample size issue, he's just a terrible penalty killer. Last year Walker was one of the best PKers on LA. You can't really use the "bad team" argument when Peeke is literally the one dragging their PK down the most
You can disagree on the trade value or targets, Im just talking about Walker and Peeke's PK abilities
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 mars à 13 h 10
Sujet:
Hmmm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheeDjeeEem</b></div><div>They both are 3rd pair dmen for different reasons, neither are good but Peeke is the better PKer at the same cap rate which is more useful for this team.
Waste of a 1st rounder</div></div>
Are you just making stuff up?
Peeke was the worst penalty killer on CBJ (<a href="https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?report=penaltykill&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20232024&seasonTo=20232024&gameType=2&playerPlayedFor=franchise.36&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&filter=shTimeOnIcePerGame,gte,1&sort=ppGoalsAgainstPer60&page=0&pageSize=50" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">11.87 PP GA/60 which is the highest goal against rate on the team among regular penalty killers</a>) who have the 25th ranked PK in the league
Walker was the best penalty killer on PHI (<a href="https://www.nhl.com/stats/skaters?report=penaltykill&reportType=season&seasonFrom=20232024&seasonTo=20232024&gameType=2&playerPlayedFor=franchise.16&filter=gamesPlayed,gte,1&filter=shTimeOnIcePerGame,gte,1&sort=a_ppGoalsAgainstPer60&page=0&pageSize=50" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">3.07 PP GA/60 which is the lowest goal against rate on the team among regular penalty killers</a>) who have the #1 ranked PK in the league
Like its not even close...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 mars à 10 h 49
Sujet:
Most Realistic For Hanifin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NMAvsFan</b></div><div>And I think he stays for a bit of a raise and some long-term security. He had a nice run earlier in the year in terms of scoring but he's really a 4th liner that shouldn't cost more than $1.25M or so to sign.</div></div>
As a UFA he would be able to get way more than 1.25M. Wouldn't surprise me if he got 2.5 or even 3+
Forum:
NHL Trades
8 mars à 12 h 13
Sujet:
(COL/ANA) - Meyers for 2024 5th (ANA)
Good bet on a player who has performed well in the NCAA and AHL. I think he can be an NHL player and itll be easier for him to transition into the league on a team like ANA instead of COL
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 12 h 34
Sujet:
Fitting the new guys in
Walker reportedly was asking for 5 years at 5-5.5M AAV (from PHI before he was traded). Avs cant really afford that but if he comes down to 4-4.5M then maybe it could work. Apparently he really wants 5 year term
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 19 h 49
Sujet:
Filling Holes - Bellemare Nedeljkovic Reilly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>Meyers and a 5th for Ned</div></div>
Id make that trade
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 19 h 24
Sujet:
Should NJ Claim Johansen Off Waivers
I doubt it. I bet COL shopped him around first before dumping him on PHI. If NJ was interested they could've made a deal earlier and COL would've given them a pick for it
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 18 h 55
Sujet:
Filling Holes - Bellemare Nedeljkovic Reilly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cub19</b></div><div>Put pavel as 4th line then. Bellemare is slow now. Hasn't been the same</div></div>
NHL Edge has him at 93rd percentile in top speed this season
I dont watch Seattle games so maybe that top speed was a one time thing, idk. If not Bellemare I think they should still cough up a 5th rounder to bring in a more reliable 4C rather than rely on an internal option
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Armchair-GM
6 mars à 18 h 53
Sujet:
Filling Holes - Bellemare Nedeljkovic Reilly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>We thought we'd never see it again...
but "Mike Reilly for a 3rd" trades are <em><strong>BACK</strong></em>, baby!!
Isles accept, I would think. Aho or Bolduc can just get sheltered in that LD3 slot, or they can bring in another 6/7th type for a late round pick.
Ned at 3rd round value feels a little spicy - I don't think there are many legit contenders looking for goalie help (out of the teams currently in playoff position, I think maybe the Flyers, Kings or Leafs would be looking but that's it - in the east, Boston/Tampa/Florida/NYR/Canes are set, and the Wings probably wouldn't be itching to bring Ned back in; out west, Dallas/Winnipeg/Nashville/Vegas/Vancouver are set, & Edmonton doesn't have the space) so you might be able to push down to a 4th here, maybe throw conditions on it that turn it into a 3rd if Ned plays 50.1% of the playoffs or something like that.</div></div>
It was surprisingly hard for me to find a good 3LD trade target besides Reilly. There are a lot of RDs reportedly available but on LD its pretty bare aside from the high end guys like Hanifin and Chychrun. Theres Edmundson but he has 0 skating ability
Ned for a 4th would be even better. PIT apparently wants prospects instead of picks for Guentzel so I wasnt sure if they would prefer the same for Ned. Id be ok with the 4th -> conditional 3rd but they would have to wait until 2025 (or 2026 in this case if the 2025 pick is going to NYI). If they want a prospect instead thats fine too as long as its nothing crazy
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 18 h 41
Sujet:
Filling Holes - Bellemare Nedeljkovic Reilly
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cub19</b></div><div>No to bellemare but the other trades would be beneficial. Gives ava better depth
Wagner or cogs would be better centering the 4th line</div></div>
Why not Bellemare? He has great underlying numbers
I havent really liked Wagner and Cogliano hasnt played C in a decade
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 18 h 3
Sujet:
Trade deadline gonna be boring now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Cub19</b></div><div>That's interesting cause then avs only got 11 forwards and 6 defense unless walker is somehow playing and they go 11 and 7 or Mittlestadt is playing</div></div>
Wouldnt Kiviranta be the 12th?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 17 h 31
Sujet:
Were RyJo and BB really that bad
What do you mean "for nothing"? They got Walker and Mittelstadt which is an upgrade at both C and D
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 15 h 17
Sujet:
Are the Flyers buying out RyJo right now
I dont think they are allowed to until the offseason buyout window starts
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 14 h 45
Sujet:
What next
Yep a 3LD, 2G, and 4C should all be available for a mid-late round pick each and would fill all the holes
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 14 h 31
Sujet:
For all the Sabres fans who INSISTED no Bo for Middlestadt too many LD
Its crazy how much money is left over with this roster. I hope they add another LD too, Jones is good but id rather have him and JJ (and Malinski) as injury replacements than top 6 regulars. 3rd pair D, backup G, and 4C is very doable with 4M+ in space
Forum:
NHL Trades
6 mars à 14 h 16
Sujet:
(COL/PHI) - Johansen, 2025 1st (COL) for Walker, 2026 5th (PHI)
Pretty fair imo. Walker seems like a great stylistic fit and they save some cap space too. PHI realistically isnt going very far this year so they get a nice pick
Forum:
NHL
6 mars à 14 h 1
Sujet:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #4: Deadline is Approaching
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>To win a cup I can
Sacrifice some money go sign with FLA, EDM, BOS, TBL, etc
Have a good playoffs and win a cup sign a new deal later.
Remember Bogo did it and its been good for him</div></div>
Bogosian didnt have an extra year, he only lost out on a few months of higher pay. Johansen would sacrifice a couple months plus a whole extra year
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 13 h 56
Sujet:
Walker per Friedman
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Colorado should have gone for Henrique/Carrick. The defense is fine, the center line is has no depth.</div></div>
I dont think they are done making moves, I expect they will add at C before the deadline
Henrique is kinda slow and would have the same issues as Johansen. It sounds like he is going to EDM anyway
Carrick has bad underlying numbers, I think there are way better 4C options
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 13 h 46
Sujet:
Walker per Friedman
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>I mean for PHI, who are also playoff bound. Whether they like it or not</div></div>
I dont think they are serious contenders. Most likely they will have an early exit and a 1st may be more valuable to them long term than a higher chance at winning a round or two
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mars à 13 h 43
Sujet:
Walker per Friedman
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>Byram or Girard have to be going the other way, right? This makes no sense</div></div>
Why? You need D depth for a deep playoff run. A top 6 of Makar, Toews, Byram, Girard, Manson, and Walker is pretty good and they have enough depth pieces with Jones and JJ to fill in for injuries
edit: well, good call, just not part of this deal
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 févr. à 23 h 39
Sujet:
Three 3Cs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swissmontana</b></div><div>Yeah, I can think of a team that wants a big veteran RHD with cup experience (Colorado). Why sell something more valuable than the centers that we are trading for?
If the Avs ran a 21 man roster, they'd actually be running an 19 man roster. Ambulanche and all that.
I like the idea of either Arizona Center but not both. This is spending a first to be forced to offload either a top 4 defenseman (not ideal) or sell one of the two centers you picked up (not ideal). The returns will not be good.</div></div>
It all depends on which UFAs you can attract. If they can get a good deal on a D man for 2-3M then it makes sense to move Manson. If they can get a good deal on a C then it would make sense to flip Kerfoot. If they can get a good deal on a G then it would make sense to either flip Allen or maybe trade for a different goalie entirely
The Avs upcoming cap crunch is not exclusive to this trade idea. They will have to sacrifice depth at either C, D, or G next season regardless (unless they find great value UFAs or pay for retention). Even if they have to flip one of their acquisitions in the offseason they still got a playoff run out of them so its not like its just wasted assets. Id rather pay to fill all of the Avs holes and have a better chance at another cup this season than not add someone and leave a hole in the lineup just because we would get less value in a trade to flip them after the playoff run - maybe its not ideal to have to flip them but its also not ideal to only trade for one C and have to play Olofsson as a 4C for a playoff run
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 févr. à 22 h 24
Sujet:
Three 3Cs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swissmontana</b></div><div>Manson has a MNTC, he won't be that easy to move, and i dont think the Avs <em>want</em> to.</div></div>
its a 12 team no trade list. Im sure at least a couple of the other 20 teams will want to add a big veteran RHD with cup experience
If the Avs dont want to move Manson they could keep him and flip Kerfoot instead as <a href="/users/HockeyManiac95" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@HockeyManiac95</a> suggested, then run a 21 man roster
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Armchair-GM
26 févr. à 18 h 46
Sujet:
Three 3Cs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyManiac95</b></div><div>I'd rather keep Manson at that point and flip one of the Cs tbh</div></div>
Assuming you mean Kerfoot I could get on board with that but it would mean they would likely have to run a 21 man roster to make it work. Moving Kerfoot at 1.75 and replacing him with a league minimum deal would save roughly 1M, while moving Manson at 4.5M and replacing him with a 2-3M contract would save 1.5-2.5M, allowing them to use a 22 or 23 man roster
If you mean Colton I would disagree. I would much rather keep Colton than Manson
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 févr. à 18 h 11
Sujet:
The dollars are for the accountants to figure out
NJ easily declines imo. J Hughes is on a fantastic contract and will probably be 4M cheaper than Pettersson's next deal
Hronek only has 1 more year of team control while L Hughes is still on his ELC and has a way higher ceiling
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Armchair-GM
26 févr. à 18 h 6
Sujet:
Three 3Cs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swissmontana</b></div><div>Would recommend looking at what this does to the cap next year. they cannot take all 3 of those guys into next year.</div></div>
If they trade Manson in the offseason and sign a 2-3M replacement in free agency then they can
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