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Armchair-GM
21 sept. 2022 à 22 h 14
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Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ThatBoredHockeyFan</b></div><div>I thought he made 2.4 not 1.4 my bad, then just retain a millon</div></div>
Mayfield>>>>>>>>simek
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 sept. 2022 à 20 h 14
Sujet:
Top 10 Centers 2022
Stamkos is a W
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Armchair-GM
21 sept. 2022 à 19 h 26
Sujet:
Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ThatBoredHockeyFan</b></div><div>Mayfield?????</div></div>
What about him?
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Armchair-GM
21 sept. 2022 à 19 h 21
Sujet:
Deadline
Isles arent paying for a 2.25m 3rd pair dman
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Armchair-GM
20 sept. 2022 à 6 h 29
Sujet:
Top 6 LW
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeypal</b></div><div>Maybe a 3rd but in this market it’s hard to tell especially with teams having no cap it’s either a 3rd or 4th I’m leaning towards a 4th just based on cap issues league wide</div></div>
Bjorkstrand went for a 3rd and a 4th. If TOR moves kerfoot without having to pay its a W for them
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Armchair-GM
19 sept. 2022 à 22 h 46
Sujet:
Matty
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AndrewGoalie33</b></div><div>I don’t think we are exactly a dumping ground for salary and doubt we can even afford the trade but I find it hard not to take that</div></div>
Take it and run. We'll figure out who goes where after.
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Armchair-GM
19 sept. 2022 à 22 h 42
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlevinKalevra</b></div><div>Mayfield is better than Hakanpaa but I don’t think it’s a massive difference. Not enough of a difference for those picks. I realize Chairot and Savard got returns like that, but those were over pays imo. If somebody wants to pay that much for Mayfield (and it isn’t Dallas) I will be happy for the Isles as I do like the team and most Isles fans are pretty solid to talk to, yourself included. I understand your thought process on 2RD. I just don’t care for the trade. I don’t think Dallas is good enough to be trading first or even second round picks. Obviously need to see how things go under DeBoer, but I’d be very surprised if the need on the back end wasn’t for an offensive dman</div></div>
Not a bad call
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Armchair-GM
19 sept. 2022 à 3 h 6
Sujet:
Cup Finals
Judging by the savard and chiarot deals mayfield is worth a 1st and a 3rd. So idk why we should take foegele as well
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Armchair-GM
18 sept. 2022 à 18 h 5
Sujet:
Ideal lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Not at all because EH doesn’t just have one chart, there are many different metrics that you can use to come to a conclusion on a player. Jfresh is just one player card that can’t even accurately show what quality of competition the player is up against.
You’re trying to take shots at analytics now because better analytics platforms have shown that Pageau is not close to an 87% WAR player.
This is common for people like you who don’t understand all the different metrics. You post a chart that you found on Twitter when you don’t understand anything about it, someone posts more accurate metrics and you get defensive and then ignore analytics entirely.</div></div>
Lmao your own analytics say that pageau is in the 69th percentile in total offensive war. Yet you called him a black hole offensively and say hes bad. So whos ignoring analytics and getting defensive?
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Armchair-GM
18 sept. 2022 à 18 h 3
Sujet:
Ideal lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Nah it’s definitely flawed. Most reliable analytics platforms have adjusted their QOT and QOC so that you can properly evaluate a player. TOI is meaningless. This is like arguing a player is good based on +\-</div></div>
Hes not trying to use it to say a player is good. Its just as important to understand how to use a stat as it is to understand that stat in the first place. The only reason he has QOC and QOT on the cards is to help understand a players deployment.
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Armchair-GM
18 sept. 2022 à 11 h 25
Sujet:
Start-Bench-Cut
Start bench cut
Matthews mackinnon crosby
Aho kane eichel
Debrincat lindholm miller
Stone kuznetsov couturier
Slavin toews pietrangelo
Hughes letang carlson
Mcavoy ekblad heiskanen
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Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 22 h 30
Sujet:
Ideal lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Ah so you're saying that I should base my analysis on one chart - not gather all the information and come to a conclusion on his overall offensive impact. The only thing hes good at is shooting, he does not drive play at even strength and he has a negative impact on possession. That's why hes an offensive blackhole at even strength.</div></div>
No im just saying the chart you posted as a sort of 'proof' to your opinion shows the exact opposite of your opinion.
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Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 22 h 28
Sujet:
Ideal lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>if Jfresh QOC and QOT are based strictly on TOI then that's why his model is flawed. Evolving hockey and Hockey viz incorporate other metrics for QOT and QOC</div></div>
Its not flawed he doesnt pretend its anything more than that. You obviously dont know what stats youre reading yet youre trying to tell me whats going on. Go learn what stats are what before you comment on them
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 19 h 8
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlevinKalevra</b></div><div>Mayfield is better than Hakanpaa but I don’t think it’s a massive difference. Not enough of a difference for those picks. I realize Chairot and Savard got returns like that, but those were over pays imo. If somebody wants to pay that much for Mayfield (and it isn’t Dallas) I will be happy for the Isles as I do like the team and most Isles fans are pretty solid to talk to, yourself included. I understand your thought process on 2RD. I just don’t care for the trade. I don’t think Dallas is good enough to be trading first or even second round picks. Obviously need to see how things go under DeBoer, but I’d be very surprised if the need on the back end wasn’t for an offensive dman</div></div>
Thats a fair point. Guess i misunderstood your original comment my bad
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 19 h 7
Sujet:
Ideal lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>You are wrong, QOC and QOT is not only based on TOI, most reliable platforms incorporate CF%.
That's the issue and why Jfresh model doesn't isolate a players impact as well as Hockey viz or Evolving Hockey. Evolving hockey also uses multiple different charts/metrics so you can properly evaluate a player instead of just posting one jfresh card and think it's a 100% accurate reputation of his overall impact.</div></div>
Actually jfresh says straight out that his QOC and QOT stats are based solely on TOI. And considering thats the only chart that had QOC and QOT on it im going to assume that what you were talking about.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 19 h 6
Sujet:
Ideal lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>because it includes his 19-20 season with Ottawa where he played with top 6 forwards like tkachuk and duclair as well as shooting like 8 goals above expected. He was boosted by his linemates which put him at 85 overall in 19-20 for offense.
Pageaus offense was 62 and 61 the last two most of his value represented by shooting. His play driving offensively is a huge weakness which is why context is important. Can't just look at jfresh's EV Offense and come to a conclusion on his offensive impact. You should look at all the available data and form your own opinion...it's hilarious that you were the one that brought analytics into this , are worshiping Jfresh's player card and can't think for yourself on this topic. Ironic. You sound like a liberal who calls everyone a fascist for not seeing things the same way. Look in the mirror bud.</div></div>
Got it so 62nd percentile and 61st percentile which is well above average is now considered a "black hole offensively". Good to know youre very objective and not at all narrative driven with your analysis of players.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 14 h 34
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>The Alex DeBrincat trade was a royal joke, Kyle Davidson just gave him away. Debrincat was worth far more than a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick. Pierre Dorian took him to the cleaners on that one.</div></div>
Please give me a recent comp that fits your claim that meier should get a lot more. Or is it just your opinion that he should get more without any basis for it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 14 h 33
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlevinKalevra</b></div><div>Will likely be Hakanpaa. Which I’m not thrilled about but replacing Klinger with Mayfield isn’t much better. At least Hakanpaa doesn’t cost us a first rounder and then some. If the Stars are looking to add on the back end at the TDL they will be looking for an offensive defenseman most likely</div></div>
1st mayfield is a lot better than hakanpaa. 2nd maybe they go for an offensive dman and mayfield gets moved somewhere else but thats the going rate for players like him and dallas does need a RD2 thats why i picked them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 11 h 46
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Give me a break, Holmstrom, Bailey and Bolduc are a waste. Dallas 1st will be a Mid-Teen 2023 1st round pick and Toronto's late. Yeah like i said any team going after Meier would blow away that offer.</div></div>
So again. Please tell me how this is much worse than the debrincat deal who is a significantly better player. And its better than the fiala deal though MIN didnt have all the leverage. You say its gonna get blown away, what team is gonna blow away an offer for meier that includes 2 1sts and a couple of prospects.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 11 h 41
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlevinKalevra</b></div><div>Stars need to give up a first for another defensive defenseman like they need a hole in their head</div></div>
I mean arent they running colin miller as their RD2? Maybe that was just a hallucination, my bad. Either way trying to predict what teams are going to be interested in certain players at the TDL is practically impossible. But there are always teams looking for big physical top 4 dmen (think savard chiarot manson)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 11 h 33
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>If I were Barzal I’d probably try to leave because Lou is just being lazy and not helping the team get better</div></div>
This is a lazy ass take
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 11 h 33
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsbeathabs</b></div><div>Unless TB has an LTIR at the TDL thay don't have cap space to take on ANY salary, and I don't see them moving s roster player to add Parise</div></div>
Fair enough it could be any team he just seemed like the type of player that ends up in TB so i chose them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 11 h 31
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>Toronto doesn't need Valarmov, And it was already reported that all Canadian teams are on his 16 team no trade list.
Hot trash offer for Timo Meier, No way San Jose accepts that offer.</div></div>
Like i wrote in the description if you had any care to read it, it could be any team. As for their need for varlamov considering theyre trying to win a cup with matt murray and ilya samsonov i would calm down just a little with saying they dont need an upgrade.
Just like your lack of logic with the 1st half of your statement, you again display a lack of sensibility with this side of it. Look at the trades made recently for 1st line wingers and please tell me how this deal is so much worse than any of them? But you cant bc you dont let actual deals that happen irl affect your valuations of trade values. You decide what you think a player shoild be worth instead of using comps to try to determine what a player is worth.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 11 h 26
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Is Toronto pick 19?</div></div>
No theyre 27 i had them do what theyve done for the last 5 years. Have a monster regular season and lose in the 1st round.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 sept. 2022 à 11 h 22
Sujet:
After jack hans article
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>In the absence of a top 10 pick, San Jose is going to want the closest thing to a sure thing they can get. SJS may still get some great prospects in the 20s of the 2023 draft, but it's not the kind of player they could get with a lot pick. They may ask as high as a Romanov or potential superstar in Raty in the absence of another late first.
To acquire a bubble elite RFA is going to hurt, whoever can pry him from SJS. And SJS has to admit that their window has closed, which they are still publicly stating they are in compete now mode.
As for money, I figure in the 9-10 range, assuming he shows last year wasn't a fluke.</div></div>
Stop it. 9-10 range that means you think he gets money like gaudreau and tkachuk. Does he get close to barkov/point? And those guys are Cs. Answer is obviously not. I think youre much more in the robert thomas/jordan kyrou/kevin fiala range than you are with barkov/point/tkachuk.
I understand the want of a close to sure thing which this package doesnt really provide, but i think from a pure value standpoint it works. Though i do get that the lack of a top 10 pick or top prospect regardless of value could be a dealbreaker.
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