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SlickWilly

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Forum: Armchair-GM24 mars à 17 h 22
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>I'm not the biggest fan of the argument "the average 10th overall pick isnt actually that good" when calling draft slot value. If you wanna use it to say that the draft is a total crapshoot, then I'll agree with that.<strong> But you can constantly find guys of high value in the teens</strong>, just because whoever picks at 10 makes a mistake doesnt mean that the 10th overall pick isnt valuable.</div></div>

So i understand your premise and I dont disagree, but if we're talking strictly in terms of percentages this is a little mis leading imo. you are absolutely correct that there are good players every year in that range, even in bad draft years. My issue here is it's mostly in hindsight. if you aggregated the drafts from 2010-2020, Id hazard a guess that something like 2 or 3 guys on average are high value (i admit this term is subjective so we may disagree there).

That's not bad considering the range but the other issue here is development. Some of these players may be destined for it cause they simply dropped too far in the draft for dumb reasons. But there are guys who wound up turning into high value players because their development went well. And my argument would be that a good chunk of player development ends up being out of the control of the drafting team. Personality, work ethic, habits, off ice problems etc. These are not only hard to account for but theres nothing you can do about it.

The value in 10th overall is that in theory you should get the 10th most valuable player in that draft class. That seldom happens though. And the fact is even the best scouting teams are only like 5% more sure than the rest of the league on who that guy is going to be. Thats why it ends up being a crapshoot.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 mars à 19 h 23
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Forum: Armchair-GM19 mars à 19 h 1
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SlickWilly</b></div><div>Its not necessarily about Kurashev's value, or his future in Chicago. But if we enter next season with the expected lineup (assuming we dont win the lottery) of Bedard, Taylor Hall, AA, Lukas Reichel who MAYBE starts producing again, and Dickinson, with Nazar and Moore not in the NHL yet, Bedard is inevitably going to regress without a consistent linemate that he has chemistry with. And that to me is worth more than a late first. If you plan on bringing Nazar into the NHL consistently next year and Reichel is going to be a consistent producer, or you plan on signing someone whos gonna enhance Bedard's play so he doesnt have to do it all himself, then go for it. But as it stands right now, I dont know that Im a fan of making the current team worse.</div></div>

Reasonable, but I am not worried about Bedard regressing in the least bit, he is going to be just fine. Again, they will find guys to play with Bedard, if they need to, and his success in the NHL does not hinge on having Kurashev on his wing. I have a feeling Kurashev was always expendable to Kyle Davidson and he was just hoping for him to have some success while they still had control over him, so that they could get a good package. Almost everyone on CHI's current roster should be expendable, and CHI has too much work to do for them to pass on a deal like this. I certainly don't think they should go crazy ripping the roster apart, but if you get an offer along these lines, at this point in a rebuild, you have to at least think long and hard about it.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 mars à 18 h 50
Sujet: If only if