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Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai 2022 à 15 h 16
Sujet: Movin amp Shakin on Draft Day Eve
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devsfan25</b></div><div>I wouldn't even think about this trade. The Devils are probably the team that need Scheifele the least. We're certainly not going to trade our 23 yr old captain who had the best year of his career for a 29 year old center who is seeking a pay raise in 2 years. Also Severson&gt; Pionk so this deal isn't even close</div></div>

I can appreciate that... I went to the devils as my understanding is their owners are tired of losing and want to push this year... a big point per game center workin with hamilton on your PP would be a big boost, Severson is a UFA after this next year pionk give you more cost certatainty to try and resign scheifele ,,,i would agree severson is better than pionk but dont underestimate pionk he had a tough year but is better than he showed this season plus youre getting the most impactful player in the trade in scheifele, who while not without his issues more than anything just needs a change of scenery and you willsee a rejuvenated version of him that could be downright scary. you could be right that the devils are not interested but if mercer and hughes keep getting better everyday, hischer is going to become less and less relevant to the devils.

but again what do i know lol
Forum: Armchair-GM17 mai 2021 à 19 h 24
Sujet: Just A Fun Conspiracy Theory
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Why would Vesalainen never be in the Jets top 6?

I mean idk if he will develop enough to be a top 6 winger or not but I think it's premature to think he won't though if Maurice is here much longer the odds are slim, to me it's obvious that Wheeler is in decline and I think Perfetti is going to take longer to arrive then we think, should probably hang onto Vesalainen a bit longer, his trade value isn't much at this point anyway.</div></div>

ok home from work and have had sometime to consider some of this haha

i did not get enough for Morrissey but again as i said to get a player of equal value that player likely has a no trade clause but i should have had the bruins add a piece or two maybe ill try and fix that...

I do like morrissey but i cant see the jets building a defence around Jomo, Pionk, Demelo and Heinola... thats four undersized D in your top 6.... Pionk is better than morrissey right now, Heinola next to Buff i think will be the best dman we have ever had just watch his poise under pressure... and demelo is a decent third pair guy to break young guys in with and i dont want to pay JoMo 6 million plus to be on my third pair.....JoMo and Hamilton would be great but then it pushes heinola down to the second pair with pionk and thats too small IMO and pionk and morrissey is too small IMO....i think its a big ask to ask a rookie dman ie heinola samberg or stanley to play on their off-side... thats a lot harder than people think, your reads are different your angling is different and your stick on your off side takes away the boards instead of the middle of the ice which opens up lanes for opposition... Samberg, Stanley and Heinola have to be with the Jets next year stanley has faired well and Samberg coming out of NCAA is man already it wont do him a lot of good to spend another year with the moose he needs to be in the NHL again just IMO...I like JoMo and Chevy will never trade him anyway so its a moot point but if chevy were cut throat i think he's the odd man out...

As for Vesalainen again i do like him and granted he hasnt had a real opportunity yet... i just havent seen enough of him to think he can be an impact top six winger...
Forum: Armchair-GM17 mai 2021 à 16 h 55
Sujet: Just A Fun Conspiracy Theory
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Okay here's some context for you. Morrissey is also a first round pick, as if that matters anymore, but is also a top 4 defenseman. Ritchie is a 4th line plug. You don't give up anything for players like that. You get them in-house or sign a comparable player as a cheap UFA.

Reaves isn't needed and isn't the kind of player you give up 2 assets for. Is be fine having him, he's just not worth that much

For the Reinhart deal, you have the Jets giving up one of our two best defensive forwards, a first and another former first round pick, since trade matters to you, to get Reinhart, a player the Jets don't need at all, to play in our bottom 6, because he can't displace anyone in the Jets top 6.</div></div>

I will agree with you that JoMo is worth more however he will be pushed out of out d corps IMO in due time... and so many high end talent in this league have no trade clauses and will not waive for winnipeg, Ritchie is better than a fourth line plug as you put it and its also about saving Morrisseys cap hit for a better purpose be it now or down the line.. could the bruins add another peice sure but i wont pretend to know their prospect list well enough to know who they would part with...but sure add another piece

Reaves would be a good addition if Perfetti is forced into the line up next year in lieu of going back to junior... 2 pieces? really im giving a up a draft pick and hoping for niku someone gives him a chance somewhere else because hes got no hope here... but fine send niku somewhere else for another late draft pick...

Reinhart is way better than you are giving him credit for and if we lose wheeler in this scenario there is certainly a hole in the top six he could fill... if im a little short on the deal for reinhart as someone suggested, and that may be the case remove the pick from their side or add a B prospect but Copp would be a good fit and good leader in Buffalo and first rounder is good pick up for them as well... Vesalainen will never be in our top six... if buffalo goes full rebuild which they should he may get a fair shot there...

yes the jets may come out a little shy in these deals but its short term pain for long term gain in flexibility and cap room... but again its just an idea
Forum: Armchair-GM17 mai 2021 à 16 h 27
Sujet: Just A Fun Conspiracy Theory
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>It would be hard for Chevy to make all those trades. As soon as he attempted any one of then, he'd be fired, they're all that bad for Winnipeg.</div></div>

agree to disagree... The only trade that may be out of whack is the Bruins trade but Ritchie is a former first rounder starting to come into his own, the Bruins could use a long term locked up left Dman and its as much about saving money for the jets who will have some new contracts to hand out in the next couple years... and morrissey has fallen down the jets depth chart... we could hang onto morrissey but we also need some size in our bottom 6... but whatevs someone always has to step up and just say no with no context or argument haha
Forum: Armchair-GM1 avr. 2021 à 10 h 57
Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2021 à 19 h 18
Sujet: Chevys Classic TDL Swerve
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Yes, you have to give something to get something, but you don't build successful teams by ridiculously overpaying on trades. Peter Chiarelli loved to make bad trades like that and look what that did for him.

You may be living 3 years in the past. Jones is good, but hasn't been great for a couple years now. Would he be a help? Of course. Does one player guarantee the Jets a Stanley Cup or even advancing a round or two? Of course not. Hockey is a team game, it's not the NBA where the best player almost always wins.

Thinking we don't need Perfetti anymore is real short term thinking. Have you ever heard of injuries?
Or of some players production dripping due to age? Anyone can beat anyone come playoff time. Two seasons ago, during the regular season, everyone was awarding the Stanley Cup to Tampa. What happened then? Columbus walked all over them in the playoffs with an Institute team, so the "you'll never beat Tampa with this team" theory is a fallacy.

Anyway you look at it, cutting your own throat and sacrificing your team's future for an "all in" one time push with a player you'll have for just over one year, no matter how good a player, is foolish.</div></div>

Jones has never had the opportunity to play behind 12 forwards like the jets have right now... he would be an absolute stud moving the puck behind that group...

We have arguably one of the 2 or three best goaltenders in the world right now... dont waste that by waiting for perfetti to be ready to lead us.

why worry about injuries or production dipping at this point, its not a problem until it is... of course upsets happen nothing is guaranteed but you give yourself the best chance to win period, especially with that forward group and that goaltender, do not waste this opportunity, could it blow up in your face sure, there are no guarantees... perfetti could get a concussion before he ever plays an nhl game and never play hockey again... no one can predict the future... what Chevy does know is that he has a window right now that most teams would kill for... go for it now

cutting our own throat by sacrificing our future? we've been patiently drafting and developing for a decade to get an opportunity like this... and its not like our core is old there is plenty of time to replace any prospect we have our system.

Would you really care if Stanley and Perfetti go on to have Hall of Fame careers for columbus if we win a stanley cup this year? i wouldn't... and again just so we're clear i'm not saying its a lock we win the stanley cup it never is but you take your best shot when you have the chance
Forum: Armchair-GM31 mars 2021 à 16 h 53
Sujet: Chevys Classic TDL Swerve
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>There is zero chance the Jets give up Stanley, Perfetti and another 1st for a little over a year of Jones. Zero.</div></div>

gotta give something to get something and either you dont know how good jones is or you dont see how close the jets are to getting over the hump...

jets have three young NHL calibre Left shot dmen right now, with morrissey locked up not all of them are going to play here....and secondly we dont need perfetti anymore... we need high end wingers for 55 and PLD moving forward those are alot easier to acquire in free agency and via trade when needed and we dont need that this year and possibly not even next if stastny re-ups with the jets at a lower price tag....

Jones is the missing piece.... if and it is a big IF ...if there is even the slightest chance he is available... chevy should stop at nothing to bring him to winnipeg... and for a year and half sure but if we're winning and he likes it here... resign him... again if it means you cant keep Copp or even Pionk, you deal with that then.... the jets window is wide open right now... why would you not push all your chips in?

Could the jets make the final four without Jones, yes possibly, but they arent beating vegas or colorado with that D and they sure aren't beating tampa if they get that far.... if the jets are serious about being a contender go for it at any cost this season
Forum: Armchair-GM27 mars 2021 à 21 h 46
Sujet: Contenders
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>arafay</b></div><div>MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!! If I could give this post 10 likes I would lol.

Also, we know chevy will be doing at least one of these, he always has before a playoff run. And with some of the better guys on the market too in stastny and Hayes. He’s going to go for it again. It’s just a matter of who and maybe when (though tdl day is chevys style).

Also it’s a matter of how much, like will he add just one of ekholm/Manson/savard/ristolainen and quit there, or will he add 2 top 4 d? I’d think he goes for 1 of the big guys in ekholm or ristolainen and then wraps it up with a lower cost one like hamonic. That’s just seems like something chevy would do</div></div>

He needs to add either a #1 RD or two top four D one right and one left if he wants to really go for it which i think im clear that he absolutely should...

my preference for option 2 is ekholm savard as they are exactly what we need.... but i am kind of hoping chevy might be patiently waiting for deadline day and go big game hunting haha ....highly unlikely but if cbj made jones available and i dont think thats out of the question...im all in... there is no such thing as an untouchable prospect...especially when youre as close as the jets might be
Forum: Armchair-GM27 mars 2021 à 20 h 29
Sujet: Contenders
There is no way Chevy regrets that vegas expansion trade... it allowed him to keep his top four D together and we were in the conference final that same season.

Collecting prospects are nice, winning championships is better. Both of the proposed trades above are absolute no brainers, you lose nothing from your line up and you get the two best D available. I like Vesalainen too and believe there is still a good upside there, but that top four D above is worth a whole lot more.

Worry about the expansion draft at the end of the season, but it would be alot easier to deal with the ED fallout with a banner in the rafters i assure you :-)

This North Division is ripe for the Jets taking right now....Toronto has a brewing goaltending issue and they dont scare me, I refuse to believe that with that D-corps McDavid could single handedly beat us in a 7 game series, Habs cant compete at this stage with our center depth and Cgy is an absolute mess... the time is now, that top four D puts us ahead of everyone else, Hellebuyck looks like he might be on the cusp of going supernova here based on his last few games, you surround him with that D and our top 9 and lookout
Forum: Armchair-GM9 févr. 2021 à 22 h 36
Sujet: The question I havent seen anyone ask
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>You are looking at this the wrong way. You are asking what do you do with your 1d if a couple rookie/prospect types over take him. The answer is you jump for joy to have those sorts of problems.

Frankly having three out of three young guys hit is super rare. If any of the three end up at Morrissey's level you should be happy and if two out of three you should be ecstatic.</div></div>

I realize potential means nothing if u don’t live up to it... was more just starting a conversation... would Chevy actually consider trading morrissey? What would he be worth? Wonder if they’ve had this discussion behind closed doors already? And wondering what other jets fans think about the idea of moving him

And Stanley doesn’t have to outplay morrissey he just has to be a good cheaper option on the third pair which he’s done so far... and I could almost argue heinola is already better than morrissey in the games he’s played... only ? Is samberg... is he as good as it appears he may be