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Shanesaw9

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Forum: Armchair-GM20 juill. 2022 à 14 h 15
Sujet: Reasonable Dubois Offer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Black61</b></div><div>The really is no point in making even that offer to the Jets.

Acquiring PLD now vs as a free agent actually hurts the rebuild more than helps.

Your giving away essentially 2+ 1st round picks worth of value (depending on the deal) right out of the gate. Important to note that Florida 1st is unconditional we could be giving up a top 15 pick if Florida flounders this upcoming year.

He doesnt make the habs a playoff team in the next 2 years where we wouldnt otherwise be. Realistically only a starting goalie or #1 RD could have that impact. The only thing it could do is move us up a couple spots which may take us out of the top 5 next draft which would be undesirable.

Finally the money. Even after this trade we would need to move another person out for the cap unles PLD is signing for 5 million (which isnt happening). He could also pose a problem for the internal cap structure as well</div></div>

I agree, which is why I thought this was a reasonable offer. It's a strong offer from the habs given the circumstances. Jets fan's think Dubois gets 4x this at the TDL lol.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Zero chance Chevy accepts 25% of what Dubois gets at the TDL in two years, including a cap dump that they haven't been compensated for.</div></div>

8 1st round picks coming the Jets way 2023 TDL.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 juill. 2022 à 23 h 23
Sujet: Realistic Dubios trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zuki9797</b></div><div>You can’t be serious saying armia and dvorak take two firsts and a second to dump
Sure that trade isn’t that good but dvorak is positive value and armia’s value wasn’t that negative</div></div>

What's interesting is Dvorak's career PPG is 0.5 and Dubois' career PPG is 0.66. Dvorak is 2 years older, but locked up on a cheaper deal. Dvorak is probably the ideal roster player return for WPG.

On the athletic podcast they were talking about WPG's need for a big RW (with Anderson in mind), but Armia also fits that bill.

If MTL adds a sweetener (pick or prospect), than that should be enough for WPG given the circumstances IMO. Hard to see another team offering a better deal than that knowing Dubois won't sign long term.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 juill. 2022 à 14 h 42
Forum: Armchair-GM18 juill. 2022 à 13 h 12
Sujet: Gortons Angels
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>masterjuddi</b></div><div>I dont get this lack of leverage narrative. PLD is under team control for 2 years. the jets dont have to deal him. He could sit out or be traded. THe habs also have leverage cause they don't need to deal for him, but they alos have cap issues and probably realize they should jump on this ASAP before he gets dealt to another team and maybe he finds a home.
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Habs won't have cap issues in 2 years.

It's not like WPG's hands are tied but if the reports are true that Dubois wants to go to MTL then this limits WPG's ability to get a strong return.

WPG traded Laine and Roslovic for Dubois with the expectation that they could sing him long term. Any team trading for Dubois now (except MTL) probably won't have that expectation. If MTL is truly the place he wants to play then MTL doesn't need to offer much more than any other team would be willing to pay for 2 years of Dubois.